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Post by wnolens »

ddhhyy wrote: post #21

I think the Atom editor + Hydrogen plugin for running interactive Python sessions inline with the code is still unmatched by anything available in VS Code. This setup is what I migrated to when I ditched Matlab for the "scientific Python" stack, and I'm still here. Multiple concurrent kernels, the ability to connect any .py file to any running kernel, sharing variables and imports across multple .py files, inline mat…

Same! I live in this ecosystem (Atom + Hydrogen python sessions) on a daily basis. But rather than for "science", i use it for devops productivity (scrape logs, query dbs, automate mitigations) and some low-key data analysis.

It's breathed life into my love for programming, given how easy it is to just start executing code (sometimes I just use it as a calculator app since it's that easy and accessible)

I tried VSCode's equivalent plugin, but the UX was nowhere near as nice.

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Post by p-e-w »

satvikpendem wrote: post #113
JonathonW wrote: post #106

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Vim and emacs do not adhere to platform conventions anywhere, unless your platform happens to be "emacs".

They're all terminal apps so I'm not sure why platform conventions would matter. Sure some people use GUI wrappers but most people primarily use them in terminals which have the same conventions everywhere, generally speaking.

Platform conventions matter because uniformity matters. It's a mystery to me why people just accept that in their (terminal) text editor, copying text uses a different shortcut than it does in their web browser. That is terrible usability, consumes brain cycles for no good reason, and is above all else completely unnecessary because modern alternatives exist that actually blend in with the system they're a part of.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by satvikpendem »

kylebarron wrote: post #58
__ryan__ wrote: post #29

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What’s preventing this from being done in VSCode? Other than it hasn’t yet? I don’t think it ticks every box for you, but have you tried Jupyter Notebooks in VSCode[0]? [0] https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/datascience/jupyter-noteb...

VSCode doesn't support an API to put outputs inline in the text editor. IIRC there have been longstanding feature requests for it but it would probably have a performance hit. The closest thing is having a separate output window on the right side

Is that not what Jupyter notebook support is about? I can run something and see the output below the code.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by satvikpendem »

Sad90sNerd wrote: post #83
emadabdulrahim wrote: post #12

I was a noob when Atom was new and I remember thinking it was unusably slow. Took a minute to realize that I had loaded my entire computer's directory, not just the project I was working on.

That's because it was (and is ) slow compared to true compiled applications. Just because VSCode has about 1000 tortured dev's making it usable doesn't mean its not fundamentally flawed on its face using a scripting language for text editing. https://medium.com/commitlog/electron-is-cancer-b066108e6c32 Spread the TRUTH - praise be compiled programs...

Indeed. I wonder if someone will write a text editor in Flutter so that we have cross platform support but also natively compiled code.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by eyelidlessness »

rodw wrote: post #52
skyfaller wrote: post #27

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Or another way to phrase it is that the experience sucks equally on all platforms, so you might as well switch to Linux.

Everyone believes Electron "sucks" because it's mainly the apps that suck that are noticeably built with Electron. It's the "when you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" phenomenon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VofkquwmT40&t=29s >

Sorry but the very good Electron app which actually is very good, VSCode, really does suck if you maintain 10 projects. That’s not a lot of projects. It’s just a lot of browser tabs multiplied by documentation in an actual browser.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by satvikpendem »

Maarius wrote: post #98

Sad to see, Atom has been my go to editor for the last years. What would you recommend as alternative for the average Ruby / Rails developer? I am looking at Panic Nova, VSCode, Sublime Text and others.

Definitely VSCode, with some Ruby and Rails extensions and a hefty usage of Copilot too.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by maegul »

pfoof wrote: post #85

Heh, just a month ago Adobe Brackets (another Atom clone) did the same https://github.com/adobe/brackets

Huh, I’d forgotten about this. Makes me think of Onivim 2 running out of steam. Have we just gone through an era-ending moment with text editors with VS-code coming out on top along with a few old survivors (vim, eMacs and sublime come to mind)?

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by dylan604 »

satvikpendem wrote: post #118
dylan604 wrote: post #31

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whoa, a whole 4 years ago!! ;-) i want to make a "kids today" joke/comment, but it's more of just the pace of trends/fads not the people per se. you show up at a new job and the people make comments, of course you change. i've never used Atom, so maybe it was a better thing to change, but i've been introduced to some very ingrained workflows that just no longer made sense on so many levels. you can come in guns blazi…

Somewhat unrelated, but why is it that when someone online writes an emoji with a nose, ie ;) vs ;-), I can immediately tell it's an older person? Was that something that was taught back in the day?

It like when i receive a text when no punctuation, i can tell it is a younger person. anyone using emoticons vs emojis should be the indicator in and of itself regardless if there's a nose or not. how many times did you have to push that number to get to the symbol? "huh?" you ask. shows me your age too.
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