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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by dang »

fourstar wrote: post #622
GoofballJones wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

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We've banned this account for breaking the site guidelines - https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

I really hate to ban a 14 year old account, but you've been posting abusively so consistently lately—in fact it seems that's all you've been doing—that I don't see what choice we have.

If you don't want to be banned, you're welcome to email hn@ycombinator.com and give us reason to believe that you'll follow the rules in the future. They're here: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by Natsu »

kevingadd wrote: post #642
Natsu wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, apparently it's all about ElonJet based on the story, so "without explanation" doesn't make since here, since they're going by a pre-existing policy about real-time tweeting of one's current physical location to enable harassment.

It's a new policy.

No, you can find it on the Wayback machine from a year ago. They only added a new sentence to it clarifying that they're worried about things that threaten someone's safety.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by herpderperator »

dang wrote: post #680

We've changed the URL from https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603593201683599360?s=46... , which doesn't have much information, to an article that has more information (the most out of the half a dozen I looked at). If there's a better article, we can change it again.

Could you un-paywall it?

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by fathyb »

herpderperator wrote: post #683
dang wrote: post #680

We've changed the URL from https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603593201683599360?s=46... , which doesn't have much information, to an article that has more information (the most out of the half a dozen I looked at). If there's a better article, we can change it again.

Could you un-paywall it?

Mirror: https://archive.ph/fVhKm

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by lamontcg »

comte7092 wrote: post #666
lamontcg wrote: post #578

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weirdly I'm almost on the other side of the whole doxxing issue. We've established now that Elon really doesn't like it when people dox him, and all his right-leaning supporters are defending that. Well, that's a precedent now for when minorities and vulnerable people who aren't billionaires are doxxed by right wing hate groups (e.g. Kiwifarms). And radical free speech just got abruptly limited when it got personal.…

Precedent only matters if the rules are applied consistently. These only consistent rule on Twitter now is “don’t tweet shit that offends Elon”.

Twitter is kind of gone at this point. But the lessons could live on after it.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by chinathrow »

jacquesm wrote: post #523
barbariangrunge wrote: post #296

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

No, he banned a bunch of journalists for doing their jobs .

Billionairs hating public discourse, news at 11.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by ThatPlayer »

yyyk wrote: post #577
jquery wrote: post #545

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Hate speech is far more tolerated on Twitter than on Mastadon. It’s not a free for all.

Doesn't that depend on the instance (with some not being as strict)? Regardless, such people could always decamp to their own servers - an option that was not available with Twitter. Also, volunteer instance admins will never have the resources Twitter has had to combat abuse.

"Their own servers" has always existed, just look at Truth Social. And in the same way you don't have to go to that site, Mastodon supports blocking entire instances.

Lots of instances also screen signups. There's no requirement for them to accept everyone. The server that Marcan (M1 Linux) and Alyssa Rosenzweig (Linux GPU drivers) are on claim a total of 700 active users for example. You'll still get new content as your users can boost (retweet) from other servers, while they act as gatekeepers by not boosting others.

Tumblr announced they would join the Fediverse. That would be interesting. Of course nothing stops Twitter from joining either.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by silisili »

cmh89 wrote: post #520
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

The people who cheered Musk for his "pro free speech" attitude don't actually believe or want free speech. They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like. See the terrorist attacks against Drag Queens.

> They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like.

This is probably true, but it also describes Twitter prior to the takeover.

If anything is clear to me, it's that it seems impossible to have a completely neutral/fair public forum. Or perhaps it is possible, but people dislike the opposition so much they aren't interested in using it.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by albertopv »

andrewflnr wrote: post #59
hackcasual wrote: post #2

Difficult not to see this as anything other petulance. It's Musk's site and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but this seems squarely against "any legal speech will be allowed"

Not that this is a good defense, but I think "genuinely scared for his or his child's safety" is a real possibility. Especially if he (rightly or wrongly, no comment there) thinks someone threatened his child... well, protecting your children is one of the more powerful instincts humans have, one of the handful powerful enough to outweigh an ego like Elon's. Plus he has to be at least a little frazzled by Twitter hav…

He cares so much about his children that one have gone a long way to have nothing to do with him [1]. His personal life is a mess, really a mess [2]. Like many billioners entrepreneurs I think he is just an absent father who only cares about him self.

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/elon-musks-daughter-gra...

[2] https://people.com/parents/everything-to-know-about-elon-mus...

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