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Post by calculatte »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #296

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

What is everyone up in arms for? This is a private company, so he can do whatever he wants.

That is what everyone has been saying for years. I mean, it turns out they were wrong and Twitter was actually colluding with government agencies to bypass the first amendment. But censorship and targeted suspensions were defended tooth and nail by internet commenters.

Is this a problem now only because people you like are targeted? Surely people wouldn't be so shortsighted?

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Post by AlexandrB »

dzader wrote: post #255
pantalaimon wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m beginning to question whether starship will ever make it to orbit

starship has nothing to do with Elon. I know some SpaceX employees. They let Elon run around like the child he his pretending to be an engineer while they do the real work (and take his money)

I've heard that SpaceX pays below the industry average though.

Seems like a bad deal, get paid less and have to "manage" your founder.

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Post by haberman »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #296

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

I agree. Principles are the only way out of this. People need to feel faith that an evenhanded application of impartial standards will protect both them and their ideological foes alike. Whatever privacy standards are established need to protect everyone the same.

It's easy to point out Musk's hypocrisy and shifting standards. Conservatives did the same when it was more liberal people who ran Twitter. We need to appeal to something higher than "everything is great when people who agree with me are in charge."

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Post by ErikVandeWater »

c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

There are nuances. It's obviously less okay to effectively ban public (edit: and even public health expert) criticism of public health policy than it is to ban sharing the live location of other people.

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Post by somedude895 »

c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

I knew he'd gone mad when he tweeted the Nancy Pelosi's husband conspiracy theory, but I was cautiously optimistic about Twitter up until ElonJet.

Our company had already stopped spending on Twitter ads back when the first (possibly false) reports about increased hatespeech on Twitter came out, where I was one of a few protesting the decision, since it seemed like giving in to the hysteria and just trying not to become the target of activist journalists. But now it's clear even to me that staying on Twitter is a brand safety issue.

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Post by memish »

hackcasual wrote: post #2

Difficult not to see this as anything other petulance. It's Musk's site and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but this seems squarely against "any legal speech will be allowed"

Hopefully it's 5D Chess, playing the long game.

"A warm welcome to all the newest converts to the great American cause of free speech!" @pmarca

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Post by foreverobama »

eggy wrote: post #111
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

Oh, just like when pre-Musk Twitter banned NY Post/journalists over a true story about Hunter Biden's laptop. I don't see how an anti-doxxing rule banning people tracking Elon Musk's whereabouts is worse.

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Post by Pxtl »

narrator wrote: post #208

One thing that bugs me about the commentary here is that absolutely everything comes down to whether someone is mean or nice. It doesn't matter what they're saying, it's the TONE. Like we could all die fighting over the last gallon of gas in some burnt out hell world and it would be fine as long as everyone was nice to each other. It's like there is no past, there is no future, there is only the every present now and…

Yup. Fundamentally Elon's "free speech" thing was about anti-trans hate. And you can find the same hate here on HN, and it's fine as long as you weird it politely and ignore that those are real people we're talking about.

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Post by imchillyb »

"Free Speech doesn't mean just being able to say what you want, whenever you want! Your words could hurt someone!"

Uh. That's /exactly/ what free speech is. I have the ability to say whatever I want, because in our society it is impossible to not offend.

I wish someone would electronically silence musk for a month or twelve. Take away all his toys, gadgets, conveniences...

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Post by dang »

We've changed the URL from https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603593201683599360?s=46..., which doesn't have much information, to an article that has more information (the most out of the half a dozen I looked at). If there's a better article, we can change it again.
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