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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Elon's content moderation decisions so far: - no swastikas - no continuous real-time doxxing The people who shrieked loudest that Elon would allow hate and safety threats on Twitter are now shrieking that he's banned hate and safety threats on Twitter. @DavidSacks

Tweeting publicly available information is not “doxxing”.

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> TechCrunch tweeted at Twitter’s new head of trust and safety for comment on the situation and will update this story if we hear back. Hmm. I guess there's not a number they can call or email to try.

I mean, apparently it's all about ElonJet based on the story, so "without explanation" doesn't make since here, since they're going by a pre-existing policy about real-time tweeting of one's current physical location to enable harassment.

It's a new policy.

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Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

He's handing it over to the people. Vox Populi Vox Dei. They will be unbanned shortly, as they should. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603609466301059073 > Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year old. Uh, the whole stock market is down. Amazon is down almost as much as Tesla. 48% vs 50%.

In the last three months, VTI (total US cap weighted market) is +0.15%, TSLA is -48.02%.

Are you secretly deliberately making a bad argument?

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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The people who cheered Musk for his "pro free speech" attitude don't actually believe or want free speech. They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like. See the terrorist attacks against Drag Queens.

I don't know why it's so impossible to believe there are people who truly do want free speech. I wasn't sure if Musk was going to deliver it, but I tried to remain open-minded. I did think previous Twitter management leaned left with some admittedly difficult moderation decisions, but obviously I'm finding out that Musk is even less supportive of true free speech. Ironically this banning of Mastodon links is the #1 t…

It's impossible to believe because we know people who say that, and we know that their fundamental belief is that rules exist in two ways: 1) to protect and serve a certain class, without binding them, and 2) to bind the other class, without protecting the other class.

This is not a new phenomenon, the only thing that changes is the terms used to signal the meaning.

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post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

I think it should be obvious by this point that in the minds of today's "free speech" advocates, the term means "I get to make political statements and nobody can criticize me for them" and not anything like it was understood in the recent past.

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I saw Richard Kyanka do this once before.

Ended well for him too, didn't it?

A single strong moderator, or even a team of mods and admins with loosely coherent policies, can work fine.

I think the largest community where I've seen this kind of autocracy go well is Fark -- people are generally reasonable, for whatever reason the trolls do not do as much boundary-pushing and rules-lawyering as on other sites, and it's generally a calm and funny place to hang out. Drew Curtis is just, like, a nice normal person.

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The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

I was excited to see his pro free speech approach and this ban wave disappoints me. I'm actually okay with bans, suspensions and all the rest. But only if there is the following - A redemptive path back - Due process - Transparency - Fair application of the rules. These recent bans have had none of that. The rule change should have been announced before the bans. There should have been warnings to remove the tweets b…

> At least they appear to be making progress on removing child exploitation.

I am not aware of any source for this claim except Elon himself.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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post #114

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I was excited to see his pro free speech approach and this ban wave disappoints me. I'm actually okay with bans, suspensions and all the rest. But only if there is the following - A redemptive path back - Due process - Transparency - Fair application of the rules. These recent bans have had none of that. The rule change should have been announced before the bans. There should have been warnings to remove the tweets b…

> At least they appear to be making progress on removing child exploitation. I am not aware of any source for this claim except Elon himself.

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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

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