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it is however perfectly in line with "private companies can do whatever they want"

Which is exactly the position that Musk is supposedly fighting against -- it's almost like he has no actual principles and is at best no different than the people he's replacing

I do not think any of that is in doubt anymore.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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He just tweeted that doxxing is a 7 day ban.

Journalists are not going to stand for being randomly kicked off a service they depend on for their work for 7 days every time Musk has a bad hairday.

He's making a clear statement that Twitter isn't a place for journalists or journalism.

They'll find somewhere else to go

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One possible effect of his craziness is that the banks that helped finance the buyout, thinking that Musk is driving the value of Twitter down to zero, will agree to sell the loans back to him at a big loss. Better to get 50% of their money back than nothing at all.

Or the bonesaw Saudi crown prince asks Musks to come to Dubai for a weekend.

He's going to ask him to travel all the way around the world to a country that's not one he's in control of?

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One thing that bugs me about the commentary here is that absolutely everything comes down to whether someone is mean or nice. It doesn't matter what they're saying, it's the TONE. Like we could all die fighting over the last gallon of gas in some burnt out hell world and it would be fine as long as everyone was nice to each other. It's like there is no past, there is no future, there is only the every present now and…

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The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

The people who cheered Musk for his "pro free speech" attitude don't actually believe or want free speech. They want free speech for themselves and censorship for people they don't like. See the terrorist attacks against Drag Queens.

Did these "attack" include realtime doxxing? Especially after TOS modified to prohibit it?

Or can you give other examples of disparity between free speech rule applications for themselves and people they don't like?

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As one of those people: yeah, this is pretty terrible. I don't think being allowed to share the exact location of individual private jets is nearly as important for the public discourse as some of the other stories Twitter has censored in the past (pre-Elon), but this still represents a significant departure from what Musk was promising before the buyout (that basically anything legal to say would be allowed). I'd mu…

> rather than on the overall system that makes this kind of censorship possible What do you think this system is?

The consolidation of media, ongoing for decades, has created concentrations of power that leave the entire media system vulnerable to people like Elon Musk. Twitter and Facebook are two particularly dense concentrations of power, but the general problem goes back a century at least and it's a problem with media generally, not specific to technology. Sinclair Broadcast Group (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZggCipbiHwE) and William Randolph Hearst come to mind particularly.

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Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Musk didn't like it so the journalists are now banned. The dude is truly off his rocker now. The "rules" are whatever he makes up on the spot. He's self-destructing before our eyes...no longer the richest man in the world. Telsa stock tanking all because he can't STFU and acts like a spoiled 12 year…

> Those journalists weren't reporting specific locations of his jet...they were reporting on a legit news story about it. Come on now. They were linking directly to the tracker that Sweeney was banned for, not just reporting on the story about it. It was a childish petulant doxxing on purpose and they got treated the same as Sweeney.

I mean the location of his jet is public information (all flight plans are public records).

Plus he's a public personality, so not really concerned by most of that "anti-doxxing" rule

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For those of us who wondered what form of governance Twitter 2.0 will have, I think it's now safe to say it won't be based on any particular set of rules, principles or ethics. It will be totalitarian -- whatever Elon feels like at any particular moment in time.

Twitter has a very clear policy - anything that doesn't incite violence is allowed. And the test is simple: "Does it make me want to punch someone in the face"? Not "me" as in the average reasonable person, "me" as in Elon Musk. If you post something that makes Elon want to punch you in the face, you will be banned from his blog. "I personally wanted to punch Kanye, so that was definitely inciting me to violence. Tha…

I'm pretty sure it's anything that indicates a person is at a place.

Eg. "I'm at McDonald's getting a burger with my friend" is ban worthy because it says where your friend is

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As an early Tesla investor (from early-mid 2010s), I find Elon's behaviour change over last 2-3 years pretty toxic and inhumane. From the days of fighting california for covid lockdowns to now hiding behind "free speech" doing whatever he wants anyways (which is sucking up to republicans and russians and who knows who else). I want to say this isn't 100% unexpected (some people show true behaviour openly only once th…

> I would even be ok with 50%-100% tax rate above 100 million dollars net worth. What is the rationale behind you think the bureaucrats with no skin-in-the-game would apply the money better than an entrepreneur and with more balance for society?

Well for one, with an entrenched bureaucracy you don’t have to worry about how one man’s emotional state might affect your country’s space programs or satellite internet network.
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