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Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

I feel like this was something that he was turned into. Things like the pedo guy comments and the Covid skepticism and a bunch more are genuine criticisms, but for every story of substance there has been a deluge of pure character assassination. Between the years of long work hours and a stream of hot or cold praise or condemnation I think it's quite easy to lose your moral compass. I think a lot of my friends think…

Calling someone a pedophile without proof is genuine criticism?

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So this is how Twitter goes out: not with a bang but with a seemingly endless stream of stories about the little ways Elon is ruining the service each day. Just staggers me that Elon could have just… not done any of this. And yet here we are. He’s had to sell billions in Tesla stock to finance this ongoing mayhem, this is surely going to be up there as one of the greatest examples of hubris in modern business.

It seems as though he's entered his "let's build large airplanes out of spruce" stage.

Exactly! I couldn't help but think of Hughes recently with his crazy choices. He hasn't got the injury from a plane accident to attribute his awfulness to though.

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I think he was legit shaken by the incident with the kook stalker and his son. Which is certainly understandable. People need to dial the hate way down. Way, way down. And the rule change was quite clear that linking to the jet tracking was prohibited. That all said, he's gone too far here. And it's an unwinnable fight anyway.

So what would banning a jet tracking account have to do with a stalker (for which no police report was filed)? And why ban journalists? In addition, the rule change was just to enable the banning of the jet tracking, not because it was it came from some higher sense of duty.

How do you know no police report was filed? Are they public record in LA?

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It remains very funny that he paid forty-five billion dollars for the privilege of humiliating himself daily with these petulant temper-tantrums. Amazing bit.

If you go out just a little bit not everyone hates him. Personally I think he hasn’t don’t anything overt yet. So he banned a few journalists, do you know why? No right? So why judge so early?

If you willfully ignore the last month of events maybe that could float.

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Difficult not to see this as anything other petulance. It's Musk's site and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but this seems squarely against "any legal speech will be allowed"

Not that this is a good defense, but I think "genuinely scared for his or his child's safety" is a real possibility. Especially if he (rightly or wrongly, no comment there) thinks someone threatened his child... well, protecting your children is one of the more powerful instincts humans have, one of the handful powerful enough to outweigh an ego like Elon's. Plus he has to be at least a little frazzled by Twitter hav…

Remember Elon joking about pronouns earlier? It's hard for me to read that as anything other than spiting his transgender daughter. Between that and his "can't win em all " statement, I don't think Elon cares all that much for his kids.

But I certainly agree that he's going through a crapton of stress right now, and that can't be helping. I hope he finds a feeling of safety, but I also hope that his daughter also finds the peace she needs...

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It might also be how Tesla goes out. A lot of people have lost a lot of money on Telsa lately: https://www.investors.com/etfs-and-funds/sectors/tesla-stock... It's hard to overstate what a crucial time this is for Tesla. They had early-adopter success when they had the field to themselves. But now every major car company plus a bunch of other people (possibly including Apple) are coming for them. Pivoting to the main…

Quite a tale, if entirely fictional. > Capital that is going going to be harder to raise Tesla has over $10 billions in cash and adding few billions every quarter. They don't need to raise ever again. > They had early-adopter success Yes. Also, they became the largest EV company in the world with 2x margin of other car companies. > when they had the field to themselves Nissan Leaf and Bolt EV launched before Model 3.…

I'm having trouble following this. Do you believe the Model 3 was Tesla's first model?

Having $10 billion in cash sounds like a lot. But that's against the $500 billion car companies will be investing this decade: https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/exclus...

It's also not much compared to the $130 billion Tesla's top 10 investors have lost on Telsa since the Twitter takeover started: https://www.investors.com/etfs-and-funds/sectors/tesla-stock...

And Tesla is coming under pressure to spend their cash not on investments, but on stock buybacks: https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/tesla-stock-...

As to the future, we'll see, but it's perfectly possible that Tesla will end up in the bucket with Groupon: promising early start, but in retrospect only of historical interest.

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Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

I feel like this was something that he was turned into. Things like the pedo guy comments and the Covid skepticism and a bunch more are genuine criticisms, but for every story of substance there has been a deluge of pure character assassination. Between the years of long work hours and a stream of hot or cold praise or condemnation I think it's quite easy to lose your moral compass. I think a lot of my friends think…

>Twitter is a chaos box at the moment, It's hard to tell whether Musk is directly involved. These actions (or any actions really) might be policy, edicts from the top, officious middle employees or just plain screw ups.

This is an issue that allegedly involves Musk's family. He's tweeted about it directly multiple times stretching back to his initial offer of cash for @elonjet to go away, and has directly discussed this policy change in his own tweets over the past 24 hours, including tweeting about this round of bans.

Are you actually saying "it's hard to tell whether Musk is directly involved" in this specific issue, or...?

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That is normally not how cults work—and yes, I am claiming elon is a cult. When a cult leader fails to deliver, or otherwise issues a prediction that never materializes, the cult member usually grow stronger in the cult’s convictions. This is kind of a counterintuitive psychological phenomena but it has been demonstrated quite a few times. There may be something of a cognitive dissonance driving this. It is that afte…

I would be interested in seeing some citations to back up that claim. The famous Jonestown incident was a case of people having left everything they knew, relocated to an isolated place in a different country, etc. And even then, some members of the cult were forced to drink the poisoned kool-aid and some drank it not knowing it was poisoned. Residents of the commune later committed suicide by drinking a flavored bev…

There's one source that usually comes up in such discussions, When Prophecy Fails (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails). It's difficult to respect it completely as a controlled act of science, like much social psych from that era (and an ongoing battle for the discipline, to be sure), but it's definitely far from an unworthy read.

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One thing that bugs me about the commentary here is that absolutely everything comes down to whether someone is mean or nice. It doesn't matter what they're saying, it's the TONE. Like we could all die fighting over the last gallon of gas in some burnt out hell world and it would be fine as long as everyone was nice to each other. It's like there is no past, there is no future, there is only the every present now and…

Zen can be uncomfortable

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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So this is how Twitter goes out: not with a bang but with a seemingly endless stream of stories about the little ways Elon is ruining the service each day. Just staggers me that Elon could have just… not done any of this. And yet here we are. He’s had to sell billions in Tesla stock to finance this ongoing mayhem, this is surely going to be up there as one of the greatest examples of hubris in modern business.

It seems as though he's entered his "let's build large airplanes out of spruce" stage.

Fun fact: The spruce goose was made of Birch.
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