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While I don't agree with the bans, here's a counter argument. Will it be ok to ban someone if they tailed a car every day and live-posted the driver's location on Twitter? One can argue that someone with has a plane has more resources to protect themselves. At the same time, they face more threats too.
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Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…
I feel like this was something that he was turned into. Things like the pedo guy comments and the Covid skepticism and a bunch more are genuine criticisms, but for every story of substance there has been a deluge of pure character assassination. Between the years of long work hours and a stream of hot or cold praise or condemnation I think it's quite easy to lose your moral compass. I think a lot of my friends think…
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For me it was calling rescuers in the Thailand cave pedos. Seriously, I recommend anyone interested in a heartwarming story to read the Wikipedia page on the Thailand cave rescue. Countries all over the world sent teams of experts to save those boys. Hundreds of people helped out. It just shows how most people in the world are good, but at the same time how the media focuses its coverage on a small, sad little man tw…
To be clear: He called one person "pedo guy". That person had been insulting his / SpaceX's attempt to help. There's plenty to criticize Musk about, but this is clearly a case of "can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen". Don't get into a flame war and cry to the legal system when the other guy is better at it than you. The dude deserves no sympathy.
Musk went on to hire a PI to try and find dirt on this person. [2] That sure feels to me like he couldn't stand the heat and wanted to use his money to slander this man.
I think it's courageous to stand up against one of the most powerful men in the world when he randomly decides to abuse you because you spoke the truth. I don't think the fact that he used the court system to do so detracts.
A man named Saman Kunan, 37 years old, gave his life in that rescue effort; he lost consciousness underwater and could not be resuscitated. Another man, Beirut Pakbara, developed an illness during the operation; he spent the next 18 months in and out of the hospital, before succumbing to the illness. I can't find an age, but photos make it apparent he was a young man. All twelve children were saved, along with their soccer coach. [This is mostly a summary of the Wikipedia article.]
With that context, Musk's actions are just so incredibly, unthinkably petty.
[1] https://youtube.com/shorts/VM31A4UsiU0?feature=share
[2] https://www.businessinsider.in/an-aide-to-elon-musk-hired-a-...
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Doxxing adds nothing to the conversation. It’s not an opinion, an argument, or an artful expression — forms that free speech laws are designed to protect. Rather, doxxing is merely harassment and adds nothing substantive. Same argument can be made for racial slurs and the like. Anyone pretending otherwise is being disingenuous.
Trump, and most right wingers were all banned from TOS violations and harassment and doxxing. Look up LibsofTikTok and what they did too. Suddenly you change your tube on “free speech absolutely” back to something even more obscured. Good job.
This is directly contrary to the reporting in Twitter Files by Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss, and Michael Shellenberger whose journalistic integrity and credentials exceed yours and mine combined by orders of magnitude:
"On Jan 7, senior Twitter execs:
- create justifications to ban Trump
- seek a change of policy for Trump alone, distinct from other political leaders
- express no concern for the free speech or democracy implications of a ban"
https://twitter.com/ShellenbergerMD/status/16017204550055116...
And the only doxxing related to LibsOfTikTok was Taylor Lorenz doxxing LibsOfTikTok, to the point that Lorenz showed up at LibsOfTikTok's house in person herself. She didn't just doxx her, she went to her house in person. There are pictures.
edit: Rate limited for telling a truth that HN dislikes again...
Here's my reply to the below:
>If they then publish your home address? Sure.
She did publish her home address, after showing up there. Some tweets containing it are apparently still up, as she complained about it to Musk in a thread about the journalists being suspended (for 7 days it turns out).
She claimed the identity of the account was of public interest on CNN here: https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/15182845369660456...
But then showed up at relatives' houses of LibsOfTikTok too: https://thepostmillennial.com/libs-of-tik-tok-exposes-taylor...
Do you mean to tell me that the relatives of that account were of public interest after exposing the account as an American woman?
It was a deliberate doxxing, by Taylor Lorenz aimed at LibsOfTikTok on purpose.
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Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…
I feel this comment. I wasn't always a 'fan' per-se of Elon, but I was definitely able to appreciate what his associated companies had put forth. Anymore, I can't stomach the continuous news stream of awful behavior, treatment of others displayed, etc. I cannot support a person like him or what he stands for/represents at this time (or in the foreseeable future).
Yikes Musk is quickly burning through a lot of public good will. For me it started with trashing Dr. Fauci a week or two ago which was really dumb for a supposedly smart person. And now these mainstream journalists. As the marketing face of Tesla Musk is doing a lot of damage. No wonder he had to sell TSLA shares today as they were tanking.
For me it was calling rescuers in the Thailand cave pedos. Seriously, I recommend anyone interested in a heartwarming story to read the Wikipedia page on the Thailand cave rescue. Countries all over the world sent teams of experts to save those boys. Hundreds of people helped out. It just shows how most people in the world are good, but at the same time how the media focuses its coverage on a small, sad little man tw…
So this is how Twitter goes out: not with a bang but with a seemingly endless stream of stories about the little ways Elon is ruining the service each day. Just staggers me that Elon could have just… not done any of this. And yet here we are. He’s had to sell billions in Tesla stock to finance this ongoing mayhem, this is surely going to be up there as one of the greatest examples of hubris in modern business.
He has lost 40% of his net worth (over $110 billion ) so far this year largely because of this one deal. Truly one of the most disastrous business decisions of all time.