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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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For me it was calling rescuers in the Thailand cave pedos. Seriously, I recommend anyone interested in a heartwarming story to read the Wikipedia page on the Thailand cave rescue. Countries all over the world sent teams of experts to save those boys. Hundreds of people helped out. It just shows how most people in the world are good, but at the same time how the media focuses its coverage on a small, sad little man tw…

To be clear: He called one person "pedo guy". That person had been insulting his / SpaceX's attempt to help. There's plenty to criticize Musk about, but this is clearly a case of "can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen". Don't get into a flame war and cry to the legal system when the other guy is better at it than you. The dude deserves no sympathy.

The worlds richest toddler wants to make everything about him, distracts everyone with a poorly engineered hard case vessel in a cave that the divers had 0 visibility in, had to take tanks off to push through narrow passageways, and on top of it he lashes out with a personal insult. I don’t know what the “insult” was, but it was a terrible design, and a self-proclaimed engineer/inventor genius should have either seen its limitations from miles away or should have been self-aware enough to shut up and learn more about the problem before creating a media circus out of a fragile life-or-death situation.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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People taking in this news and then automatically blame Elon really have no critical skills. I’d wait till some more detail comes out before judging and follow the mob

> I’d wait till some more detail comes out before judging and follow the mob The detail already came out. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603573725978275841

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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

It's not a good rule. It was implemented for the sole reason of preventing people from saying where Elon Musk's private jet is, even though that is publicly available information by law.

And it was forseeable. People were joking that Musk was paying $40B to buy Twitter simply to just down the ElonJet account.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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“He’s in a downward spiral that’s rapidly gaining speed.” Yeah, he owns the worlds largest auto company, largest rocket company, and just threw down $40 billion to buy the worlds biggest social media company. Dude is in dire straights indeed.

Not the largest car company, just the one with the highest price tag. VW prob makes more cars in a month than Tesla makes in a year.

Seems to be more like 2 months (VW's monthly rate is about 700,000 and Tesla's yearly rate about 1.2M).

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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As an early Tesla investor (from early-mid 2010s), I find Elon's behaviour change over last 2-3 years pretty toxic and inhumane. From the days of fighting california for covid lockdowns to now hiding behind "free speech" doing whatever he wants anyways (which is sucking up to republicans and russians and who knows who else). I want to say this isn't 100% unexpected (some people show true behaviour openly only once th…

> However, this does indicate a very deep flaw in our existing society i.e. giving certain individuals too much power; either via their job position or capital.

This is exactly the conclusion of a conversation I had with a friend a week ago. Individuals should never have more power than a certain fraction of the rest of us. Between Putin, Trump and Musk a lot of good has been destroyed (and many lives as well).

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Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

Tinfoil hat on: the dude is a foreign asset and now has to pay dividends. Tinfoil hat off: all the admiration and money he received turned him into whatever it is that we are seeing today.

He’s just sincerely gotten into right-wing conspiracism and also gotten the power to ban anyone who criticizes him.

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So this is how Twitter goes out: not with a bang but with a seemingly endless stream of stories about the little ways Elon is ruining the service each day. Just staggers me that Elon could have just… not done any of this. And yet here we are. He’s had to sell billions in Tesla stock to finance this ongoing mayhem, this is surely going to be up there as one of the greatest examples of hubris in modern business.

Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

I feel like this was something that he was turned into. Things like the pedo guy comments and the Covid skepticism and a bunch more are genuine criticisms, but for every story of substance there has been a deluge of pure character assassination. Between the years of long work hours and a stream of hot or cold praise or condemnation I think it's quite easy to lose your moral compass.

I think a lot of my friends think I'm a die hard Musk fan when I say a criticism is unfair. I actually just think he's a human being under a microscope coping poorly. I'll support the criticism when I think it's warranted. The is a culture of everything is bad because bad man is bad, that unsettles me.

As for this particular story on HN, I really don't know. Twitter is a chaos box at the moment, It's hard to tell whether Musk is directly involved. These actions (or any actions really) might be policy, edicts from the top, officious middle employees or just plain screw ups.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it was calling rescuers in the Thailand cave pedos. Seriously, I recommend anyone interested in a heartwarming story to read the Wikipedia page on the Thailand cave rescue. Countries all over the world sent teams of experts to save those boys. Hundreds of people helped out. It just shows how most people in the world are good, but at the same time how the media focuses its coverage on a small, sad little man tw…

To be clear: He called one person "pedo guy". That person had been insulting his / SpaceX's attempt to help. There's plenty to criticize Musk about, but this is clearly a case of "can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen". Don't get into a flame war and cry to the legal system when the other guy is better at it than you. The dude deserves no sympathy.

Yeesh.
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