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Post by jquery »

lmm wrote: post #153
pigsty wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon is certainly awful for all that he’s doing, but couldn’t Twitter have simply told him to buzz off when he proposed buying the company instead of taking legal action to ensure he did it? People up top were eager to cash out at the expense of all the employees under them. That’s equally disgusting to me.

Twitter was an unprofitable laughing stock until 2016, and with Trump gone they were very likely to revert to that whoever was in charge. It's hard to justify not taking twice what you're worth for that. Frankly even for employees, getting cashed out on your RSUs at double value and the option to walk away with 3 months' severance sounds better than staying there while it slowly runs into the ground.

Why is this myth so pervasive. Pre-musk, Twitter was making upwards of $1m per employee. If only we could all “fail” this way… It not being profitable was due to short term capital expenditures.

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Post by anigbrowl »

Echoing David Sacks, he's now tweeting that the journalists in question were tweeting 'assassination coordinates.'

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603587970832793600

Starting to think there might be some national security issues with one guy being the nominal linchpin of the US space program, satellite internet, and global public messaging infrastructure.

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Post by absrd »

stickfigure wrote: post #353
janalsncm wrote: post #281

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For me it was calling rescuers in the Thailand cave pedos. Seriously, I recommend anyone interested in a heartwarming story to read the Wikipedia page on the Thailand cave rescue. Countries all over the world sent teams of experts to save those boys. Hundreds of people helped out. It just shows how most people in the world are good, but at the same time how the media focuses its coverage on a small, sad little man tw…

To be clear: He called one person "pedo guy". That person had been insulting his / SpaceX's attempt to help. There's plenty to criticize Musk about, but this is clearly a case of "can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen". Don't get into a flame war and cry to the legal system when the other guy is better at it than you. The dude deserves no sympathy.

Listen to yourself... the guy literally risked his life saving children who were trapped in a cave, and you think the mere fact that he criticized Musk means that he deserved to be slandered as a pedophile

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Post by jakelazaroff »

stickfigure wrote: post #353
janalsncm wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me it was calling rescuers in the Thailand cave pedos. Seriously, I recommend anyone interested in a heartwarming story to read the Wikipedia page on the Thailand cave rescue. Countries all over the world sent teams of experts to save those boys. Hundreds of people helped out. It just shows how most people in the world are good, but at the same time how the media focuses its coverage on a small, sad little man tw…

To be clear: He called one person "pedo guy". That person had been insulting his / SpaceX's attempt to help. There's plenty to criticize Musk about, but this is clearly a case of "can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen". Don't get into a flame war and cry to the legal system when the other guy is better at it than you. The dude deserves no sympathy.

Oh well if he only did it to one person I guess it’s okay then!

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Post by anigbrowl »

WalterSear wrote: post #400
UncleOxidant wrote: post #158

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It seems as though he's entered his "let's build large airplanes out of spruce" stage.

How far are we from the "Shoes by Kleenex" stage, I wonder. Ah, apparently he mistaken the Streisand Effect for a "coordinated campaign". We are closer than I thought.

A lot closer in the last 30 minutes :-/

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Post by TulliusCicero »

scaramanga wrote: post #386
beachy wrote: post #64

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Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

The EV industry is a distraction to prevent us from doing what is needed to save the environment: ie. minimise the use of cars. It (much like the hyperloop scam it necessitated) is simply an attack on car-free living and public transport.

No, that's dumb. These are largely orthogonal problems.

Not having EV's wouldn't have made everyone suddenly switch to public transit and bikes, as cool as that might be. They'd just keep driving gas and diesel vehicles.

And realistically, you can't get rid of cars and trucks entirely. Even super dense areas with strong public transit still use plenty of cars and trucks, because they're useful. You think Singapore and Tokyo and Seoul could run on no cars or trucks whatsoever?

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Post by mushbino »

citizenkeen wrote: post #196
xupybd wrote: post #114

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I was excited to see his pro free speech approach and this ban wave disappoints me. I'm actually okay with bans, suspensions and all the rest. But only if there is the following - A redemptive path back - Due process - Transparency - Fair application of the rules. These recent bans have had none of that. The rule change should have been announced before the bans. There should have been warnings to remove the tweets b…

What has Twitter done about child exploitation in the last two months other than disband the groups responsible for stopping it? I can find any reputable news sources saying positive things about Twitter and child exploration.

It seems to be largely made up. It's almost as if he's burning through right-wing political fear mongering tactics with a quickness.

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Post by GaylordTuring »

wpietri wrote: post #270
afavour wrote: post #22

So this is how Twitter goes out: not with a bang but with a seemingly endless stream of stories about the little ways Elon is ruining the service each day. Just staggers me that Elon could have just… not done any of this. And yet here we are. He’s had to sell billions in Tesla stock to finance this ongoing mayhem, this is surely going to be up there as one of the greatest examples of hubris in modern business.

It might also be how Tesla goes out. A lot of people have lost a lot of money on Telsa lately: https://www.investors.com/etfs-and-funds/sectors/tesla-stock... It's hard to overstate what a crucial time this is for Tesla. They had early-adopter success when they had the field to themselves. But now every major car company plus a bunch of other people (possibly including Apple) are coming for them. Pivoting to the main…

It might have lost short-term gamblers a lot of money, yes. But if you lose money through gambling, the only person you should blame is yourself.

If you’re an investor who’s in it for the long run, I don’t see what today’s stock price has to do with anything though. You can’t use the current stock price as an answer to what the stock is worth.

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Post by [deleted] »

maxk42 wrote: post #344
hackcasual wrote: post #2

Difficult not to see this as anything other petulance. It's Musk's site and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but this seems squarely against "any legal speech will be allowed"

Well in many cases doxing is considered illegal: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/119 There are many shades of gray, of course.

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Post by motoxpro »

TigeriusKirk wrote: post #93
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

I think he was legit shaken by the incident with the kook stalker and his son. Which is certainly understandable. People need to dial the hate way down. Way, way down. And the rule change was quite clear that linking to the jet tracking was prohibited. That all said, he's gone too far here. And it's an unwinnable fight anyway.

I think you have to give sympathy in similar situations to expect sympathy in return in that same situation. As mentioned, the Pelosi incident comes to mind.
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