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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by xcrunner529 »

programmarchy wrote: post #246
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

Doxxing adds nothing to the conversation. It’s not an opinion, an argument, or an artful expression — forms that free speech laws are designed to protect. Rather, doxxing is merely harassment and adds nothing substantive. Same argument can be made for racial slurs and the like. Anyone pretending otherwise is being disingenuous.

Trump, and most right wingers were all banned from TOS violations and harassment and doxxing. Look up LibsofTikTok and what they did too. Suddenly you change your tube on “free speech absolutely” back to something even more obscured. Good job.

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Post by janalsncm »

thwoeiuro23432 wrote: post #285
m3kw9 wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you go out just a little bit not everyone hates him. Personally I think he hasn’t don’t anything overt yet. So he banned a few journalists, do you know why? No right? So why judge so early?

The journos were doxxing his location. See pretty unethical on their part, if proven true.

You mean the FAA was doxxing him?

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Post by JohnTHaller »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #296

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

It's not a good rule. It was implemented for the sole reason of preventing people from saying where Elon Musk's private jet is, even though that is publicly available information by law.

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Post by maxk42 »

hackcasual wrote: post #2

Difficult not to see this as anything other petulance. It's Musk's site and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but this seems squarely against "any legal speech will be allowed"

Well in many cases doxing is considered illegal: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/119

There are many shades of gray, of course.

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Post by MonkeyMalarky »

riffic wrote: post #171
i_have_an_idea wrote: post #109

For those of us who wondered what form of governance Twitter 2.0 will have, I think it's now safe to say it won't be based on any particular set of rules, principles or ethics. It will be totalitarian -- whatever Elon feels like at any particular moment in time.

I saw Richard Kyanka do this once before.

Ended well for him too, didn't it?

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Post by maegul »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #90
drunkpotato wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems to be the case that all social networks decline eventually. This one is rather remarkable for the speed and intensity of its fall.

It's a particularly spectacle-heavy fall, but it's actually not that uncommon for social networks to decline quickly. Digg famously had their userbase fall apart near-instantly after their v4 launch.

Underrated take IMO. Something many haven't learned ... these things are ephemeral. In the same way they are made new they are made old.

If you care about your online presence and the branding "value" it has, then work to separate the brand from the platform as much as possible.

If you care about your social connections, find some way to separate them from the platform too: follow them on another platform, learn their general identity so you can find them elsewhere, and maybe we can all try to value having our own personal homes on the web separate from any real platform again.

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Post by tstrimple »

kuschku wrote: post #231
wankle wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps he's trying to set straight what Twitter had become, a crazy progressive activist dark haven.

Progressive haven? A law was needed that made sure to personally hold twitter management liable just to make sure that twitter would actually suspend open Nazis (the kind that actually posts swastikas). [See: Netzwerkdurchsetzungsgesetz] How is that a progressive haven, wtf?

For some reason people who say things like this are completely unable to understand the data which supports that conservatives are amplified on social networks far more than liberals are. Conspiracy theorists aren't swayed by little things like data.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/feb/01/facebook-youtu...

> “There is no evidence to support the claim that the major social media companies are suppressing, censoring or otherwise discriminating against conservatives on their platforms,” Barrett said. “In fact, it is often conservatives who gain the most in terms of engagement and online attention, thanks to the platforms’ systems of algorithmic promotion of content.”

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Post by paulcole »

andrewflnr wrote: post #59
hackcasual wrote: post #2

Difficult not to see this as anything other petulance. It's Musk's site and he's free to do whatever he wants with it, but this seems squarely against "any legal speech will be allowed"

Not that this is a good defense, but I think "genuinely scared for his or his child's safety" is a real possibility. Especially if he (rightly or wrongly, no comment there) thinks someone threatened his child... well, protecting your children is one of the more powerful instincts humans have, one of the handful powerful enough to outweigh an ego like Elon's. Plus he has to be at least a little frazzled by Twitter hav…

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Post by spritefs »

Oh cool. Another Elon thread. How exciting

He says that journalists were doxxing him? Where's the proof? Where are the Elon fans with a counter argument? Or are we all in agreement at this point that Elon "free speech absolutist" Musk is a fucking idiot who has no business running a social network?

Weird how Kanye, Trump, and Elon are all simultaneously going even deeper off the deep end. I feel like I'm watching the Gadarene swine story play out in real time

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