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Post by sillysaurusx »

afavour wrote: post #22

So this is how Twitter goes out: not with a bang but with a seemingly endless stream of stories about the little ways Elon is ruining the service each day. Just staggers me that Elon could have just… not done any of this. And yet here we are. He’s had to sell billions in Tesla stock to finance this ongoing mayhem, this is surely going to be up there as one of the greatest examples of hubris in modern business.

pg thread on the topic: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/1603572959758663680?s=61&t=...

You can practically see the switch flip. I’m not sure he’s openly said Musk has made bad decisions until this moment.

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Post by wankle »

jasmer wrote: post #37

'New Elon / New Kanye' I think is disillusioning for a lot of people. It's one thing to see a random celebrity or business person lose their marbles, but there was (and continues to be) high hopes for Elon at least with Tesla and Space X. I absolutely understand someone trying to shake things up for PR, but I can't see how he's winning here.

Perhaps he's trying to set straight what Twitter had become, a crazy progressive activist dark haven.

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Post by ipqk »

input_sh wrote: post #49
bmarquez wrote: post #30

> While we don’t know what’s going on here yet, it’s possible that the suspensions are the result of automated content moderation gone awry. Some of the suspended accounts shared Mastodon and ElonJet’s Twitter handles as well as images of the tweet that appears to have gotten the former account suspended. Automation gone crazy. I'm likely to believe this explanation rather than Musk personally hitting the "suspend" b…

Wouldn't be too sure about that: > Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603573725978275841

Those quotes around the word journalists are carrying a lot of weight.

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

xupybd wrote: post #114
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

I was excited to see his pro free speech approach and this ban wave disappoints me. I'm actually okay with bans, suspensions and all the rest. But only if there is the following - A redemptive path back - Due process - Transparency - Fair application of the rules. These recent bans have had none of that. The rule change should have been announced before the bans. There should have been warnings to remove the tweets b…

You don't find it telling that you have to rope in child exploitation to add weight to the scales in favor of Elon Musk?

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Post by DiNovi »

deadmutex wrote: post #84
mmaunder wrote: post #42

One thing you can take away is the resilience of a network effect. Twitter as an application is laughably easy to build. But it's very hard to kill thanks to the massive audience and the individual connections. The only way Twitter will die is if the network effect is killed, or somehow used against Twitter to create a competing platform.

Could the same have been said of Facebook in 2014?

facebook knew this and bought instagram. twitter shit down vine which left the door open for tiktok

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Post by Georgelemental »

killdozer wrote: post #107
input_sh wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't be too sure about that: > Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603573725978275841

The sudden spike of the use of the word "journalists" as a slur from the right is pretty wild to see in real time.

Unfortunately, many people who call themselves "journalists," and especially those who brag about it, deserve the ridicule. Journalism was more honest when it was a lower-status job.

(Ridiculousness does not justify censorship, of course! Elon's actions and hypocrisy are indefensible)

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Post by int_19h »

eggy wrote: post #111
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

Oh, just like when pre-Musk Twitter banned NY Post/journalists over a true story about Hunter Biden's laptop. I don't see how an anti-doxxing rule banning people tracking Elon Musk's whereabouts is worse.

Pre-Musk Twitter didn't specifically try to present itself as a bastion of free speech.

On top of that, in case of this particular account, Musk specifically said that it would be allowed on the platform per his understanding of free speech.

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Post by tsol »

enumjorge wrote: post #94
bmarquez wrote: post #30

> While we don’t know what’s going on here yet, it’s possible that the suspensions are the result of automated content moderation gone awry. Some of the suspended accounts shared Mastodon and ElonJet’s Twitter handles as well as images of the tweet that appears to have gotten the former account suspended. Automation gone crazy. I'm likely to believe this explanation rather than Musk personally hitting the "suspend" b…

> I'm likely to believe this explanation rather than Musk personally hitting the "suspend" button on stuff he doesn't like. It’s amazing to me that despite despite several data points showing Musk would be capable of doing this, people are still giving him the benefit of the doubt. That’s the power of personal branding.

>That’s the power of personal branding.

It's not because of branding, it's because he could do it himself. It's just unnecessarily complex. It's annoying to be accused of falling for branding if you do anything but automatically assume the absolute worst at all times. That kind of rhetoric makes any discussions about musk thoroughly annoying

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Post by tsunamifury »

the-printer wrote: post #157
georgeg23 wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quoted post unavailable.

This comment reads like something that is probably true but is hard to prove because it’s a judgment of something that is intangible by nature (motivations) unless its complimented by a bevy of concrete evidence (e.g. emails, testimonies). I think that you’re tangentially right. I wouldn’t be surprised if Elon Musk purchased Twitter because he had to, but I wouldn’t be surprised if whatever motivated him to posture t…

To people who have seen similar deals in the past like this it was also my conclusion.

It’s like Elon is the modern government agency cut out, but instead of having a handler or agency association - he’s just generally a free agent cut out for anyone who will fund him.

But it’s also the plot of the much maligned movie ‘Aloha’. To the keen eye it is a disturbingly insightful film.

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