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Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Post by choward »

> This inherently limits reach and therefore reduces the burden of misinformation

I have no interest in any social network who's primary concern is limiting the spread of information. I don't care if you are scared of "misinformation". You want to restrict the spread of "good" information because you are scared of misinformation? That's the wrong solution to the problem. The correct solution is to spread your "good" information and education people on how to think critically. Censorship isn't the answer to stupidity.

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Post by cyanydeez »

choward wrote: post #291

> This inherently limits reach and therefore reduces the burden of misinformation I have no interest in any social network who's primary concern is limiting the spread of information. I don't care if you are scared of "misinformation". You want to restrict the spread of "good" information because you are scared of misinformation? That's the wrong solution to the problem. The correct solution is to spread your "good"…

One man's censorship is another man's filtering of noise.

I agree there's no universal filter, but humanity is proof there are "good enough" filters most reasonable people would agree on.

What's missing is the type of wikipedia fanaticism for which effort would be expended.

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Post by purerandomness »

choward wrote: post #291

> This inherently limits reach and therefore reduces the burden of misinformation I have no interest in any social network who's primary concern is limiting the spread of information. I don't care if you are scared of "misinformation". You want to restrict the spread of "good" information because you are scared of misinformation? That's the wrong solution to the problem. The correct solution is to spread your "good"…

Ah yes, the starry-eyed "Level One" of the Content Moderation Learning Curve [1] :)

[1] https://www.techdirt.com/2022/11/02/hey-elon-let-me-help-you...

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Post by mikewarot »

cyanydeez wrote: post #292
choward wrote: post #291

> This inherently limits reach and therefore reduces the burden of misinformation I have no interest in any social network who's primary concern is limiting the spread of information. I don't care if you are scared of "misinformation". You want to restrict the spread of "good" information because you are scared of misinformation? That's the wrong solution to the problem. The correct solution is to spread your "good"…

One man's censorship is another man's filtering of noise. I agree there's no universal filter, but humanity is proof there are "good enough" filters most reasonable people would agree on. What's missing is the type of wikipedia fanaticism for which effort would be expended.

Which is why there shouldn't be only one dimension of voting/ranking/rating.

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Post by jsemrau »

A couple of questions.

Do you want to connect with people that you know of people (OG Facebook) that you want to know (OG LinkedIn). Because these are entirely different products.

How do you want to surface content? Based on interest or based on connection proximity?

Do you want to do real-identities or pseudo-anonymous (Reddit/Twitter) although verified Twitter is a much better experience IMHO.

Do you want to enable a creator/influencer portion? Or a pro-plan?

I think in 2022, it's easy to build a community-based product. But hard to find users that are passionate enough to stick around on an empty platform.

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Post by ozim »

choward wrote: post #291

> This inherently limits reach and therefore reduces the burden of misinformation I have no interest in any social network who's primary concern is limiting the spread of information. I don't care if you are scared of "misinformation". You want to restrict the spread of "good" information because you are scared of misinformation? That's the wrong solution to the problem. The correct solution is to spread your "good"…

This is one of the points...

Everyone wants to limit who can send informatiom.

But no one is interested in limiting himself to 10 people or so.

It is not only about Elon or Ye - even grandmas want to have a thrill of publishing post that will reach hundreds of people. Social network that limits outgoing communication has 0 chance of success. Social network that has great tools for limiting what I want to see has some possibility. Ideal social network would be one where I don't need to use any tools to see what I want ... which I think is the idea behind algorithmic feeds they came up with ... unfortunately these algorithmic feeds turned out to be not what "I want to see" but "what they want to show me" or "who paid the most to stuff his things into users faces".

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Post by mattl »

SoftTalker wrote: post #253
kayodelycaon wrote: post #190

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first problem I see is separating my online identity with my real identity. I really don't want anyone at my job finding out which dog I am on the internet. My coworkers and family really wouldn't appreciate my shit posting. :) The second is friends of friends can get really awkward. There are some people who are friends with me that are also friends with people who never want to see me again.

> My coworkers and family really wouldn't appreciate my shit posting. Shit posting is one of the biggest forms of toxicity online. It would be nice if it went away by tying posts to real people. Some people don't care and would shitpost anyway, but most people only shitpost because nobody knows who they really are.

What do you define as shit posting?

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Post by vinceleo »

Look at Elgg https://elgg.org This social app framework has everything you need.

Here are examples of what can be done with it: Twitter Clone - https://pw.wzm.me Marketplace - https://es.wzm.me Showcases and more - https://w.wzm.me Q&A - http://elgghacks.com Even a platform to create other apps - https://lab.wzm.me

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