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The last paragraph in the article literally indicates there is no causal relationship or proof of any direct link between the vaccination and myocarditis. > "Finally, we cannot provide a definitive functional proof or a direct causal link between vaccination and myocarditis."
A question for vaccine skeptics: For it to be a reasonable choice to not want to take the vaccine wouldn't you need to balance the risk of death / complications from the vaccine against the risk of death / complications from covid multiplied by the risk of getting covid? There seems to be a lot of "aha I knew it" whenever any side-effect of the vaccine is found, but aren't the side-effects of covid well established,…
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The vaccines were and still are mandated for people not at risk of severe disease, and myocarditis has been framed as a side effect not worth worrying about despite the fact that it literally can kill you. Not to mention without understanding the mechanism of action, we cannot estimate the number of true deaths that occurred without a myocarditis diagnosis.
I know of a few people who have opted to not get the vaccine. One lost his wife. Still not vaccinated. You might need some more qualifiers for the word "mandated." Myocarditis is a side effect not worrying about because you have the same or greater chance of getting it if you get infected with COVID: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/full/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.... It's also really really rare in both cases.
We coerced young, low-risk people into receiving these treatments despite known side effects on pain of losing their education or employment or being able to enter privately-owned establishments (irrespective of the wishes of the owners of those privately-owned establishments). We justified it with the specious argument that they were putting other people at undue risk by remaining unvaccinated. We claimed that vacci…
Who is "we", I have never seen anything other the claims that there were claims. Can you point me to an epidemiologist that made this claim.
> And we gave the companies producing these vaccines blanket legal immunity from any potential liability.
We have ALWAYS given vaccine companies blanket legal immunity. This isn't a new thing and there are good reasons for it.
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Why should the companies be held liable? This was a government project enforced by the gun; the companies didn't force anyone to take their vaccines, and there's not a way they could have made them meaningfully safer given the timelines.
My employer wouldn't let me go to the office or even any offsites or outdoor actives (i.e. a picnic) until very recently. (Despite my approved religious exemption and "requiring" all employees to work in the office). If that isn't coercion to take an experimental vaccine i don't know what is.
[0] https://www.harvard.edu/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccine-informa...
[1] https://yalecollege.yale.edu/get-know-yale-college/office-de...
[2] https://coronavirus.tufts.edu/healthy-at-tufts/covid-19-vacc...
[3] https://campusready.ucdavis.edu/covid-vaccination
[4] https://www.nyu.edu/life/safety-health-wellness/coronavirus-...
[5] https://ndsmcobserver.com/2022/11/university-announces-addit...
[6] https://www.bu.edu/hr/hr-covid-19-resources/vaccine-required...
Is biology/science different in the US than in Europe?
Key takeaway: >>The reported incidence of (epi-)myocarditis after vaccination is low and the risks of hospitalization and death associated with COVID-19 are stated to be greater than the recorded risk associated with COVID-19 vaccination [29].
As someone who did choose to get the latest booster despite being a young male (highest risk group for myocarditis I believe), we should always be questioning what we put in our bodies.
I partially agree, or at least think we shouldn't be discouraged from questioning, but there's only so many hours in a day, and a person can digest a finite amount of information.
I choose to trust US health authorities. Flawed as they may be, I think it would be worse to somehow try to verify every claim, or come to my own conclusions on every single question. I won't judge you for making a choice different from my own, but for me, and I suspect many (most?) people, having a doctor who you trust, following their recommendations, and getting on with your life might be the best strategy.
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I think you're jumping the gun a bit here. If vaccines save 10,000 people and kill 10 people, that's still a net positive. That's the kind of moral calculus public health has to deal with all the time.
(I don't disagree with your sentiment, fwiw) For 1.5 years we had the notion of "1 death is 1 too many" shoved down our throats at every turn to justify some pretty heinous encroachments on personal freedom.
Key takeaway: >>The reported incidence of (epi-)myocarditis after vaccination is low and the risks of hospitalization and death associated with COVID-19 are stated to be greater than the recorded risk associated with COVID-19 vaccination [29].