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Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Re-enabled electricity and booted up my AS/400 to read your comment, which I curled.

Can I port to my Timex Sinclair?

There's no need to port it because it's a fine device. Are you one of those consumerist sheep that is obsessed with buying a new device every few decades? It works fine!

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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what is the point of creating yet another social network unless you have a key feature to make it distinct and valuable? if you just make a twitter / facebook clone for tech people all you are doing is dividing yourself from other people. that might be desireable for some people but i dont think its worth persueing in the long term. i propose we create something that addresses existing problems and adds new features.…

Blockchain would make it distinct, but would it provide unique value to users? I certainly agree that we need some innovation in the space.

the added value would be decentralized and cencorship resistant. you will probably also not see a lot of ads

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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The problem with your idea around 'concentric social circles' is that it would require a lot of management - managing a thousand different circles could be a nightmare. A cap on members would force aggregators to potentially push messages to other circles. Just some things off the top of my head.

Why would you need to manage the circles? Individuals are entitled to the content their circle deems acceptable (when legal). If the content being shared is incongruent with group beliefs, they can kick the user from their circle.

In my mind, it's a self-managing paradigm. Sure, it would be possible to mass message but only to those who are willful receivers. However, the inability to circulate mass messages with ease would fundamentally stifle virality.

It's my belief that reach is bad.

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Most social networks make posting (or whatever specific terminology is being used) equivalent to talking at someone. The correct model would foster conversation and thus impact engagement. Small social groups discuss topics. Offering a topic for conversation implicitly earns a response. Rarely do groups of friends get together to declare simple and unrelated one-liners. An "ideal" social network might be more related…

I agree. A group of actual (traditional) friends is not the same thing as a bunch of online people that have something in common. For a group of real life friends, online conversations are often/best handled in a chat-like experience. Here in Europe it's mostly WhatsApp. There's also differences in what you expect from content. When one of my real friends share that they took their family to a zoo and had a great day…

" There has to be some higher shared purpose, the more specific the better."

I have no idea if this is true but it's an interesting point that sounds right. I suppose the answer might come down to the individual purpose of group interaction.

I'll definitely give this some thought. Thanks for the input.

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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Let's also have zero notification whatsoever that someone answered to your comment so you have to keep engaged in constantly looking thru it manually

This is a very neat "engagement" feature idea! Love it. I would probably then just bookmark the site and check it constantly.

But no ads. Cause we aren't in it for the money.

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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I think of HN as being a social network already. There is no need for another 'social network' in the world, actually less would be best.

It's more of a "thought" network or an "idea" network than a social network. Unless I am super motivated to click through to your submissions and comments (and then back read the parent posts to understand).. most of the interaction is limited to threads. So this limits any attempts to curate a theme or push a dominate ideology.

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

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You've just re-invented group texts.

The thing is: people don't want limited reach. Why would anyone sign up for a network that limits everything they say to be visible to less than a dozen people? What's the incentive? With numbers like that I could just go outside.

So many "Let's solve a problem about social networks" ideas turn out to be "let's remove or limit the reason people use social networks in the first place"! The last one I saw -- also posted here on HN -- wanted to replace LinkedIn with a network that only allowed you to connect with people via their email addresses. So..... it was email.

(Of course, to be fair I thought the same thing when Twitter was introduced. "Why would anyone want to limit themselves to 160 characters?" I thought. So hey, who knows, maybe your group text simulator really is the next big thing)

Re: Ask HN: How might HN build a social network together?

#120

Unpopular opinion: any social network, no matter how it’s architected will become terrible past a certain size. Perhaps some architectures will have different “maximum tolerable sizes” than others, but all will become intolerable once there is a large enough user base. More users, however, means more ad / tracking revenue, so these two ideas will always be at odds.

Is this really an unpopular opinion? Seems most people have acknowledged then general toxicity of large social networks by now.

I suppose it's not. The part which I _thought_ would be unpopular was that technology unequivocally could not solve this problem.
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