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XFCE 4.18

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Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by boudin »

bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

Switching to wayland is not a small feat, even if libraries like wlroots can reduce significantly the work. XFCE is not a commerical project, it doesn't really care about market share I guess. They have plans to move towards wayland support but those things takes time.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by happyjack »

Kudos for the xfce team to keep up the project after all these years. I haven't used desktop Linux in a couple years, but xubuntu and Debian / xfce were always great experiences.

I think this project is really underrated, and I think xfce yo and attitudes towards interface are really good. It's also super stable!

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by stevedonovan »

josteink wrote: post #10
bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

I don’t know. Wayland support is very important (tm) to us Wayland-users, but I don’t know how the rest of the world feels about that. It could be like that whole kerning -thing which is super-mega important to some people, while the rest of the world don’t even notice?

I've honestly never noticed the problem, so I never saw the problem with X in the first place.

(It is possible that I have never experienced a truly beautiful desktop, but my eyes are no longer particularly precise enough to operate at modern pixel densities)

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by sylware »

bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

Hopefully we get wayland for 4.20. Namely xfce needs its compositor.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by lottin »

sph wrote: post #5
bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

I would love to try XFCE on Wayland. I used to love that DE, but I haven't been able to stand uncomposited Xorg in a decade (running xcompmgr is not good enough). Are there concrete plans to migrate to wayland? EDIT: of course you're getting downvoted because you dared utter the W-word. Come on people, this is not Reddit.

XFCE has had its own compositor for ages.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by biggunz »

otikik wrote: post #4
bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

> Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are. It might be that they are not interested on "Market share". Or they are but not enough to justify the work. I'm sure they would be glad to accept a pull request.

I had to abandon XFCE due to some issue with aging XFCE4 libraries and high cpu problems, switched to KDE Plasma 5.x,. got 50% longer battery lifetime and havent looked back.

They need to focus on these kinds of problems, not on adding new features, otherwise I would have stayed.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by Gordonjcp »

bgorman wrote: post #2

XFCE should be spending all of its development efforts on supporting Wayland. The project's priorities are clearly not in the right place to ensure the future growth of the project. Market share will continue to decline until wayland support is added, no matter how great any new features are.

Wayland support would be great! Can we see your patches to add it?

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by biggunz »

I loved XFCE4 for probably a decade, but the constant CPU usage bugs made me switch to KDE Plasma, havent looked back.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by dmm »

coldpie wrote: post #3

Awesome. Been using XFCE for ages. It hits just the right spot of modern features and usability without trying to re-invent the desktop paradigm for the Nth time. If you just want "Win98, but in 2022," you've found your desktop environment. WRT this update, the Thunar updates look fantastic. The File Highlight feature looks especially cool. I can imagine using that to highlight really frequently used folders in my ho…

As an enthusiastic XFCE user, do you mind answering a question? How do you usually launch applications?

I can appreciate the discoverability provided by a nested start menu but I've grown very fond of text launchers with autocomplete provided by gnome, mac os, dmenu, etc.

Re: XFCE 4.18

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Post by branon »

dmm wrote: post #19
coldpie wrote: post #3

Awesome. Been using XFCE for ages. It hits just the right spot of modern features and usability without trying to re-invent the desktop paradigm for the Nth time. If you just want "Win98, but in 2022," you've found your desktop environment. WRT this update, the Thunar updates look fantastic. The File Highlight feature looks especially cool. I can imagine using that to highlight really frequently used folders in my ho…

As an enthusiastic XFCE user, do you mind answering a question? How do you usually launch applications? I can appreciate the discoverability provided by a nested start menu but I've grown very fond of text launchers with autocomplete provided by gnome, mac os, dmenu, etc.

Not the parent but I have the Xfce AppFinder bound to the Super (Windows) key. I think I'm somewhat misusing it, but it's fast enough that I can strike Super and then immediately start typing the name of what I want. Dropped keys are rare, but it's not quite as fast as something like dmenu.
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