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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by micromacrofoot »

pibechorro wrote: post #845
gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

Elon has recently come out as concerned for his life. Death threats and what not. Someone tracking his every move is of concern under those circumstances.

flight data is public record, if he’s scared he should use another method of transportation

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Post by eloisant »

jxf wrote: post #838
oblio wrote: post #814

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't care about costly trips. I mean, he has billions and works a lot. Spending a million here and million there is pretty frugal compared to some other people who need to prove their worth by upping each other on who has the largest yacht in the world. > What I do care about, though, is hypocrisy. Turns out, you should care about both. First of all, his private jet costs as much as a yacht, plus he doesn't own…

Is it just me or does $7,000/day actually sound very cheap? That's the nightly rate of, say, the nicest suite in a top-end hotel, but for a whole yacht. Maybe that doesn't include crew (besides the skipper, which the article says is included), fuel, food, etc.?

It's a 24 meters boat, for 20 people, which is really small compared to a billionaire yacht.

In comparison, Bezos' yacht is 127 meters long.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by pibechorro »

paulgb wrote: post #835
tomcam wrote: post #809

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For example, twitter’s former head of trust and safety had to leave his home recently because Musk told his fawning followers that he was a pedophile. Uh no. He simply posted a screenshot from the guy’s thesis.

Don’t you see the irony here, though? When a very powerful man with a large following “just posts a screenshot”, he is supposed to be unaccountable for the actions his followers take, even if his additional context dog-whistles to his fans that the guy is a pedo. When a relative nobody “just posts already-public information about a physical object”, suddenly that’s not just worthy of a ban, but of a nuisance lawsuit.…

No one is accountable for the actions of others if they where not explicitly directed.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by immmmmm »

pibechorro wrote: post #845
gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

Elon has recently come out as concerned for his life. Death threats and what not. Someone tracking his every move is of concern under those circumstances.

do you really trust someone who is pushing MAGA conspiracies and inciting to violence against 'woke' people?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by moolcool »

mach1ne wrote: post #787
gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

Why has even HN comment field lowered to nothing but blind hate? Say what you want but the man has reformed rocket technology and jumpstarted the world's shift to electrical vehicles, both against all odds. Hate-takes like this are silly.

I think it's fair play to call out the fact that "Mr. Work 20 Hour Days" has lots of rest and relaxation in his own life.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by LightG »

pibechorro wrote: post #845
gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

Elon has recently come out as concerned for his life. Death threats and what not. Someone tracking his every move is of concern under those circumstances.

Heard of Yoel Roth?

Reap what you sow.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by sc0ttyd »

mytailorisrich wrote: post #696
philderbeast wrote: post #688

Earlier quoted context omitted.

none whatsoever. the linking is done simply by looking up who the plane is registered to, and that is also public information. you can of course always go the other way, look who owns a plane, and the go to flight information from there. there is nothing private about any of the information used in the process.

> none whatsoever I would ponder the GDPR's definition of personal data before making such definitive claim.

The GDPR only applies to businesses, not individuals. So, clearly in this case it does not apply at all since the person behind @ElonJet is acting in an individual capacity.

https://dataprivacymanager.net/who-does-the-eu-gdpr-apply-to...

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Post by hackerlight »

ramraj07 wrote: post #354
antod wrote: post #347

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> How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of commercial flights each year when you've got multiple Teslas and hundreds of private flights each year? Because there are hundreds of thousands (millions?) of other truck owners also using the same justification to keep their truck? This isn't sticking up for hypocritical wasteful billionaires, just pointing there are not very many of them in th…

So the poor and middle class have to go beyond comfort and make concessions every day while these billionaires are free to burn the world at a 10000x rate of a normal person because “there’s not enough of them?” Great logic. By that strand, I suppose they could also be allowed to abuse people, I mean it’s more important that we make sure the general population doesn’t abuse right? That’s what truly moves the statisti…

Total strawman. We want everyone to emit less (or pay a steep price for the privilege) including and especially billionaires. It's just that billionaires are a drop in the bucket so them altering their behavior will factually not change much.

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Post by itsoktocry »

kolinko wrote: post #758
gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

It's not about providing info that he flies a lot, but about sharing his live location without consent. Imagine someone kept posting a tweet about your every trip - when you left, when and where you will arrive. Twitter TOS are one thing, but I'm quite sure such things break EU's GDPR laws as well.

>but about sharing his live location without consent.

I'm trying to figure out if all of the people repeating this line are social media bots, or what.

This information is public and it's widely available on many other apps (I was getting ads on Twitter for alternatives last night).

Banning the Twitter account doesn't do much, and through the Streisand Effect will just direct ne'er-do-wells to alternatives.

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 »

tomcam wrote: post #809
paulgb wrote: post #798

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do give him credit for those things, but the guy is one of the most powerful people in the world and uses that power to bully. He keeps using his position of power to punch down at people who usually don’t deserve it. It’s petty and pathetic. For example, twitter’s former head of trust and safety had to leave his home recently because Musk told his fawning followers that he was a pedophile. It’s not even the first…

> For example, twitter’s former head of trust and safety had to leave his home recently because Musk told his fawning followers that he was a pedophile. Uh no. He simply posted a screenshot from the guy’s thesis.

> Uh no. He simply posted a screenshot from the guy’s thesis.

That is BS. Musk posted it with this false comment, which he knew would enrage his followers (and it did, I saw tons of "all pedophiles deserve to die" about Roth after this):

> Looks like Yoel is arguing in favor of children being able to access adult Internet services in his PhD thesis.

Which is, unsurprisingly, the exact opposite of what Roth was arguing for. Here is what the DailyMail (not exactly a liberal rag) said about Roth's thesis:

> Roth wrote that, as underage youngsters use the app anyway, an age-appropriate version should be created to offer help to LGBT youth

In other words, he specifically wanted to separate kids from an app that was intended for adults.

Now, people can definitely debate in good faith whether Roth's argument is a good idea or not - I think it's most definitely not. But it's not because of the absolutely false trope that Roth wants to make kids available to adults, which is basically what Musk has deliberately whipped up his followers into a frenzy about.

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