Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by xdennis » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 11:59 AM UTC

__void wrote: post #728

imgabe wrote: post #719

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you own a home, your address may also be publicly available via county records. Does that make it ok to post someone’s home address?

...is perhaps the hundred and fiftieth time I have read this (or a similar variant) nonsense of false analogy, already debunked explained and reexplained in hundreds of variants I am beginning to think that the people who parrot it are not even interested in its response (already said and reiterated hundreds of times in the last 12 hours)

Would it hurt to link then?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by _djo_ » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 11:59 AM UTC

ssnistfajen wrote: post #625

baby wrote: post #622

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Come on. That is such a bad faith argument to read on HN. There is a difference between open data and someone publicizing it. I know you hate musk but let’s not write reddit-level comment please. If it had been a personality you liked you would have written a totally different comment.

Then why isn't OpenSky (where elonjet gets data from) and sites like Flightradar24 being sued by Elon then? They publish/provide the exact same info. The only bad faith argument here is claiming publishing publicly available information is somehow endangerment.

I expect he will sue those next, forcing them out of business and taking away an extremely useful tool for both general interest and holding people, companies, and countries accountable.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by CaptainZapp » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 12:00 PM UTC

icare_1er wrote: post #785

stuaxo wrote: post #781

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He doesn't have to fly in a private jet.

When you managed several companies headquartered in various places in the US, you have to.

But then he shall stop representing himself as the savior of humanity with uber-green credentials.

Otherwise he's just an uber-hypocrite.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by pfoof » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 12:01 PM UTC

asteroidbelt wrote: post #665

pfoof wrote: post #613

While, yes, the data could have been used to track him down, but reposting it on twitter is not enabling anyone to stalk. Crimimals that would want to hunt down Elon or X, would definitely have specialists who can gather this and other data without some random twitter user

It is more nuanced than that. Professional criminals won’t have trouble locating Musk, but nut job activists may be not that smart and providing them location actually increases risk for Musk.

Well, the guy on the video looked much more sophisticated than a random nut activist. They would rather go the easy way: stand in front of SpaceX and harass the employees

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by axlee » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 12:02 PM UTC

twawaaay wrote: post #777

gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

I don't care about costly trips. I mean, he has billions and works a lot. Spending a million here and million there is pretty frugal compared to some other people who need to prove their worth by upping each other on who has the largest yacht in the world. What I do care about, though, is hypocrisy.

You should care about his costly trips. As an individual, he is wrecking the environment at a rate a thousandfold of the average person.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by joshsyn » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 12:05 PM UTC

gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by nathell » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 12:05 PM UTC

mach1ne wrote: post #787

gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

Why has even HN comment field lowered to nothing but blind hate? Say what you want but the man has reformed rocket technology and jumpstarted the world's shift to electrical vehicles, both against all odds. Hate-takes like this are silly.

No he hasn’t. The collective work of employees of companies he has stake in has.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by paulgb » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 12:08 PM UTC

mach1ne wrote: post #787

gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

Why has even HN comment field lowered to nothing but blind hate? Say what you want but the man has reformed rocket technology and jumpstarted the world's shift to electrical vehicles, both against all odds. Hate-takes like this are silly.

I do give him credit for those things, but the guy is one of the most powerful people in the world and uses that power to bully. He keeps using his position of power to punch down at people who usually don’t deserve it. It’s petty and pathetic.

For example, twitter’s former head of trust and safety had to leave his home recently because Musk told his fawning followers that he was a pedophile. It’s not even the first time Musk has called someone a pedophile unfounded.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by stevefan1999 » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 12:11 PM UTC

nathell wrote: post #797

mach1ne wrote: post #787

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why has even HN comment field lowered to nothing but blind hate? Say what you want but the man has reformed rocket technology and jumpstarted the world's shift to electrical vehicles, both against all odds. Hate-takes like this are silly.

No he hasn’t. The collective work of employees of companies he has stake in has.

Agreed. The workers provided value for him. He decided to take it all

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by axlee » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 12:12 PM UTC

kolinko wrote: post #758

gregoriol wrote: post #751

The thing he actually doesn't want everyone to realise is that he is a dumbass billionaire who goes on costly trips all the time. As soon as the world sees him as the kiddo who happens to have whims and does whatever he want with the mass of money he has (he bought twitter just for fun?), his aura will be over.

It's not about providing info that he flies a lot, but about sharing his live location without consent. Imagine someone kept posting a tweet about your every trip - when you left, when and where you will arrive. Twitter TOS are one thing, but I'm quite sure such things break EU's GDPR laws as well.

It's about tracking a plane which ALREADY has its location tracked by a transponder and published publicly. Like every other non-military plane in the world. Nothing is unusual there, except that this data is posted to Twitter.

A plane is not an individual.