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Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by fire »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #156
gcau wrote: post #87

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If radio ads weren't full of yelling, car-honking, sirens and overly attention-grabbing things, people wouldn't care as much. Same as websites putting up huge, 5MB-big popup ads and not liking that people want to adblock them. Especially worse, is when the ads are far louder than the content itself.

Some podcasters seem to have have realized this problem and are curating ads better. Also with almost all the ones I listen to, the ads are presented live by the host, not pre-recorded by an annoying voice actor, which makes them a bit more bearable. There are also a couple of youtubers who've found creative ways to integrate and connect ads to what they're presenting, one channel has perfected this to the point that…

is the entertaining ads channel perhaps Aging Wheels? His ad skits have been great

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by unixhero »

broodbucket wrote: post #41
unixhero wrote: post #24

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It exists Revanced on Android Stube on AndroidTV

So there is an equivalent for Android TV! Stube = SmartTubeNext?

I realize this is the current branding. Yes you're correct. SmartTubeNext. It appears on the TV as an app called STube

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by dageshi »

horsawlarway wrote: post #142
dageshi wrote: post #31

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At whatever point the content creator fails to get paid for the ad being "viewed" I would assume.

But that's not my problem. That's the content creator's problem for choosing to get paid by advertisers and releasing the content for free mass consumption. They picked the model - they must deal with the consequences of it. One of the most obvious consequences is that they have zero right to any of the audience's time, attention, or money. They have entered no contract with the viewer at all. Frankly - I'd very much…

You can pay for it. With youtube red. No ads, whoever you watch gets compensated fairly.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by dageshi »

polishdude20 wrote: post #110
dageshi wrote: post #31

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At whatever point the content creator fails to get paid for the ad being "viewed" I would assume.

Cool. So for now, we can have third party tools that silence these ads and these content creators still get paid. At the point where the advertisers don't like this, then things can change. If they change enough, I'll choose a different platform.

I agree with what you've said yes. So long as the content creator gets paid silencing ads seems fine to me.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by thomasfromcdnjs »

trompetenaccoun wrote: post #156
gcau wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If radio ads weren't full of yelling, car-honking, sirens and overly attention-grabbing things, people wouldn't care as much. Same as websites putting up huge, 5MB-big popup ads and not liking that people want to adblock them. Especially worse, is when the ads are far louder than the content itself.

Some podcasters seem to have have realized this problem and are curating ads better. Also with almost all the ones I listen to, the ads are presented live by the host, not pre-recorded by an annoying voice actor, which makes them a bit more bearable. There are also a couple of youtubers who've found creative ways to integrate and connect ads to what they're presenting, one channel has perfected this to the point that…

"Internet Comment Etiquette" is the best example of this, never have I consistently laughed at advertisements before.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by enriquto »

imtyler wrote: post #83
matthewfelgate wrote: post #2

A script for automatically lowering the volume during radio advertisements and DJ announcements and turns the volume back up when songs are playing. It controls a Sonos speaker using the Soco-cli Python library when Tunein is being used.

Aw. I want to like this, but I work in radio. If you remove ads then there's no reason for the broadcaster to keep going. I'm not trying to be controversial, but if you remove profit how can the business continue to exist? And if terminating the business is your goal, why? People seem to have a grudge against radio and I honestly don't know why. It's my livelihood. I'm not seeking sympathy, but I am curious.

> if you remove profit how can the business continue to exist?

Ads are social cancer. If a business is ad-based, its disappearance is a net social good.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by wil421 »

manishsharan wrote: post #15
scrapcode wrote: post #9

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Along with uBlock, there's nice extension called SponsorBlock that uses crowdsourcing to block in-content ad placements. edit: Did not notice this was already mentioned. Sorry!

I have always wrestled with the ethics of adblocking YouTube. If am subscribed to a channel, that means the content in that channel has value for me. And it is only fair that I provide some value to the content creators in return. Otherwise it is theft. Anyways this is my reasoning. Hence as much as I find ads to be annoying, I put up with them. I am considering cancelling my Spotify subscription and using the saving…

Was it theft when Facebook or Google copies whatever is in my clipboard every time I open the app?

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by sails »

eastbound wrote: post #27
matthewfelgate wrote: post #2

A script for automatically lowering the volume during radio advertisements and DJ announcements and turns the volume back up when songs are playing. It controls a Sonos speaker using the Soco-cli Python library when Tunein is being used.

It’s funny because broadcasters have notmalized ads at +6 dB compared to the rest of the radio. It’s actually measured in LUFS, and it’s normalized worldwide for radio, podcasts, TV, movies, and commercials, so that commercials are louder. LUFS measures the loudness , which is not exactly the same as volume - it makes quiet moments louder so that everything can be heard while the car engine runs, but the drawback is…

Would something like the OP linked script be possible for Netflix (and the like)? I hate that the audio is so much quieter than the effects, and it feels insane that this isn't configurable, either at the hardware level (TV) or software level, let alone a scripted hack.

edit: maybe this "Reduced Loud Noises" language option https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33991712, and also apparently changing from 5.1 to stereo

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by bachmeier »

imtyler wrote: post #83
matthewfelgate wrote: post #2

A script for automatically lowering the volume during radio advertisements and DJ announcements and turns the volume back up when songs are playing. It controls a Sonos speaker using the Soco-cli Python library when Tunein is being used.

Aw. I want to like this, but I work in radio. If you remove ads then there's no reason for the broadcaster to keep going. I'm not trying to be controversial, but if you remove profit how can the business continue to exist? And if terminating the business is your goal, why? People seem to have a grudge against radio and I honestly don't know why. It's my livelihood. I'm not seeking sympathy, but I am curious.

Radio is different due to the safety issues it raises. If they crank up the volume or engage in similar practices in an attempt to get attention, they by definition are distracting the listener. That's not the worst thing if you're watching TV, but much of the audience for radio is driving or working. It should be obvious what's wrong with practices designed to distract drivers in heavy traffic and workers carrying stuff up ladders.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by causi »

imtyler wrote: post #83
matthewfelgate wrote: post #2

A script for automatically lowering the volume during radio advertisements and DJ announcements and turns the volume back up when songs are playing. It controls a Sonos speaker using the Soco-cli Python library when Tunein is being used.

Aw. I want to like this, but I work in radio. If you remove ads then there's no reason for the broadcaster to keep going. I'm not trying to be controversial, but if you remove profit how can the business continue to exist? And if terminating the business is your goal, why? People seem to have a grudge against radio and I honestly don't know why. It's my livelihood. I'm not seeking sympathy, but I am curious.

The number of people even capable of using this, let alone the number likely to use it, is infinitesimal.

People seem to have a grudge against radio and I honestly don't know why.

Can't speak for the radio in your area but in mine it's a total waste of spectrum. Terrible audio quality, eaten up with ads or utterly inane bumpers, and playing the same garbage every single day. My choices are rap that sounds the same as it did twenty years ago, rock songs that are literally the same as twenty years ago, the morning show with the two stupidest people I've ever heard, or NPR where I get to learn for an hour about how the new constitution of Nowheristan now has a section on water usage rights vis-a-vis goats vs sheep.

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