My bike was stolen (2017) • Hacker News Board

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by ProAm » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 4:13 AM UTC

brianwawok wrote: post #92

ProAm wrote: post #67

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YMMV - I see zero help with home burglaries let alone stolen bikes. Depends on a lot of factors, just sucks you pay taxes for no benefits.

Depends where you live. SF you are getting a laugh. Tiny rural town you are getting the sherif and his full effort.

100% but I think people in bigger cities probably pay more in taxes (Im literally assuming) and get way less for their money. I know the city I live in, I get not a lot in terms of civic duty for what I fund and just accept crime and theft as a perk of living where I do.

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by lostlogin » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 5:49 AM UTC

melagonster wrote: post #99

TreeRingCounter wrote: post #81

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Logan is >80% Mormon. Indeed, when you have high-trust, high-IQ, low-crime demographics, it becomes a lot more practical to address property crimes - there aren't very many of them, and there aren't many serious crimes higher up the todo list. It has some, but not all, to do with the people in power. The demographics of a city like NYC are such that you would have to 10x police expenditures and radically expand polic…

this is very interesting. when I first heard the condition: one religion control everything from government to local community and companies, I think it should be terrible, but I so frequently heard about how they are so good at system.

Theocracy has been tried, it has a few drawbacks.

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by lostlogin » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 5:50 AM UTC

CodeWriter23 wrote: post #24

theturtletalks wrote: post #4

I had the same bike stolen twice and was able to find it on Facebook marketplace both times. The key is to file a police report and make sure you have the serial number of the bike. Without these, the police will not help. Once you find your bike, message the person, negotiate, set-up a meet up, and then get the police involved. Although we caught the guys selling the stolen bikes red-handed, the police couldn’t do a…

Convenient how the police just skipped right over how receiving stolen property is a crime.

How does FB marketplace avoid liability for this sort of thing? As far as I can tell, a meaningful amount of stolen stuff is traded there.

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by lostlogin » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 5:53 AM UTC

A prison stint for bike theft seems a bit intense. Yes, it's very annoying to have a bike taken but there must be a better sentence than prison time.

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by seanmcdirmid » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 6:00 AM UTC

lostlogin wrote: post #104

A prison stint for bike theft seems a bit intense. Yes, it's very annoying to have a bike taken but there must be a better sentence than prison time.

For one bike maybe, but what about 10 or 100? Or if you run a chop shop focused in stolen bikes? There are a lot of enablers out there, but it is all seen as petty enough to fly under the punishment radar (at least here in Seattle).

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by nitwit005 » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 6:26 AM UTC

vorpalhex wrote: post #26

chroma wrote: post #14

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So the police didn't do any detective work, didn't help with the sting operation, and they didn't punish the thief. It seems like it'd be more fruitful to get a few of your friends and solve the problem yourself. It's not like the thief is going to go to the cops.

One of the hallmarks of a justice system is the presence of a neutral judge and a defense attorney. Mob violence is most certainly not just.

In that case the US didn't have a justice system until 1963, as that's when people gained a right to a public defender: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_v._Wainwright

Although since the states rarely fund it adequately, you often basically don't have one.

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by nitwit005 » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 6:31 AM UTC

lostlogin wrote: post #104

A prison stint for bike theft seems a bit intense. Yes, it's very annoying to have a bike taken but there must be a better sentence than prison time.

It sounds like they cared more about the drugs found in this case.

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by collyw » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 7:36 AM UTC

kraquepype wrote: post #41

Glad this had a happy ending. I'm still torn up about my own bike, stolen in broad daylight. It was my fault - it wasn't locked up. It was an old bonded aluminum frame Trek, it squeaked when you bore down on it but it was upgraded and tweaked just the way I like it. I haven't felt the same about cycling since.

> It was my fault - it wasn't locked up.

You don't live in a high trust society. However, diversity is our strength.

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by collyw » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 7:37 AM UTC

lcnPylGDnU4H9OF wrote: post #50

kraquepype wrote: post #41

Glad this had a happy ending. I'm still torn up about my own bike, stolen in broad daylight. It was my fault - it wasn't locked up. It was an old bonded aluminum frame Trek, it squeaked when you bore down on it but it was upgraded and tweaked just the way I like it. I haven't felt the same about cycling since.

> It was my fault - it wasn't locked up. Pretty sure it's still the thief's fault. (I dunno, maybe you were in Amsterdam at the time.)

Isn't there an unwritten rule in Amsterdam and some other cities, where there are tons of crappy old bikes around and you can just take one and leave it elsewhere? In Innsbruck that was the case.

Re: My bike was stolen (2017)

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Post by collyw » Thu, Dec 15, 2022, 8:28 AM UTC

progre wrote: post #12

I like the writing style. Compact sentences. Reminds me of Erlend Loe's first few books.

I find it quite the opposite, it seems pretentious. It seems to use stops where commas would usually be, making it less obvious where content is more related to the previous piece of content.