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Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by aliqot »

cronix wrote: post #133
amatecha wrote: post #123

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Yeah, there was a YouTube channel I'd watch, but the guy started having sponsored ads in the middle of his videos. I just stopped watching the channel. Oh well, missing out on some cool content, whatever. I'm not going to listen to some propaganda about some VPN or Grammarly or counseling services or whatever other stupid crap I have zero interest in.

I just hit the "L" key a few times and forward by 10 seconds for ads that are part of the content. uBlock origin blocks all of the youtube ads that aren't part of the "broadcast."

sponsorblock even blocks the ads where the creator is speaking them

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by horsawlarway »

dageshi wrote: post #31
polishdude20 wrote: post #20

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At what point is it considered theft though? If I refuse to look at an ad when it plays is it theft? If I get distracted and not watch it for half the time it runs, is it half theft? If I watch the whole thing and don't actually click through, is that theft? There's no contract that I've signed that demands my full attention is on the ad. So, half my attention is ok? A quarter? How about none? Is it enough that I kno…

At whatever point the content creator fails to get paid for the ad being "viewed" I would assume.

But that's not my problem. That's the content creator's problem for choosing to get paid by advertisers and releasing the content for free mass consumption.

They picked the model - they must deal with the consequences of it.

One of the most obvious consequences is that they have zero right to any of the audience's time, attention, or money. They have entered no contract with the viewer at all.

Frankly - I'd very much rather see a return to viewer funded media. Stop wrapping me up like a product to be auctioned off. Make content I want to watch and ask for fair compensation from me.

If you can't find enough people willing to pay... your content probably doesn't need to exist.

Act like NPR and man up - ask me for my money. Put on content that's worth me opening my wallet.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by Mister_X »

imtyler wrote: post #83
matthewfelgate wrote: post #2

A script for automatically lowering the volume during radio advertisements and DJ announcements and turns the volume back up when songs are playing. It controls a Sonos speaker using the Soco-cli Python library when Tunein is being used.

Aw. I want to like this, but I work in radio. If you remove ads then there's no reason for the broadcaster to keep going. I'm not trying to be controversial, but if you remove profit how can the business continue to exist? And if terminating the business is your goal, why? People seem to have a grudge against radio and I honestly don't know why. It's my livelihood. I'm not seeking sympathy, but I am curious.

I recently retired after a 42 year career in broadcast radio (at six different stations), and the two non commercial stations I worked at had "underwriting" which is kind of like a commercial, but legal under FCC rules.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by Mister_X »

grey_earthling wrote: post #89
imtyler wrote: post #83

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Aw. I want to like this, but I work in radio. If you remove ads then there's no reason for the broadcaster to keep going. I'm not trying to be controversial, but if you remove profit how can the business continue to exist? And if terminating the business is your goal, why? People seem to have a grudge against radio and I honestly don't know why. It's my livelihood. I'm not seeking sympathy, but I am curious.

> If you remove ads then there's no reason for the broadcaster to keep going. Unless the broadcaster cares about their show and wants people to hear it. If enough people care enough, someone (perhaps the broadcaster themself) will fund the cost of broadcasting. There are broadcasters that don't have adverts and apply this model successfully. Crucially, the definition of “success” is that the audience and broadcaster…

I spent 12 years at KMFB FM on the Mendocino coast (show host & Control Op), and it was a rare commercial station that had specialty shows where the host would have to get their own advertisers to be on the air.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by matheusmoreira »

imtyler wrote: post #83
matthewfelgate wrote: post #2

A script for automatically lowering the volume during radio advertisements and DJ announcements and turns the volume back up when songs are playing. It controls a Sonos speaker using the Soco-cli Python library when Tunein is being used.

Aw. I want to like this, but I work in radio. If you remove ads then there's no reason for the broadcaster to keep going. I'm not trying to be controversial, but if you remove profit how can the business continue to exist? And if terminating the business is your goal, why? People seem to have a grudge against radio and I honestly don't know why. It's my livelihood. I'm not seeking sympathy, but I am curious.

I don't want to be advertised to. I think ads are unethical and consider that business model to be unacceptable. I suggest you find a new one because it's become increasingly clear to me that I'm not alone.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by Mister_X »

fibonachos wrote: post #132
wrp wrote: post #109

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Something I'm honestly curious about....I can understand the need for advertising, but why do DJs talk so much? I would much prefer radio to have only music and ads. Living in Japan in the 1990s, I completely gave up on radio because the talking:music ratio was about 2:1.

My uneducated guess: To keep you listening while minimizing royalty payments for playing music?

Not likely, since the ASCAP reporting period is only one week, twice each year.

ASCAP = American Society of Composers, Authors, and Publishers

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Society_of_Composers%...

I used to game the system by playing little known/independent artists I had a personal connection with during each reporting window.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by nichos »

jacquesm wrote: post #14
neilv wrote: post #11

A remaining problem is that you're still listening to whatever they play on the radio.

Can't you just use a playlist on some service or your own local MP3 collection or something like that then?

You could, but it's basically an echo chamber of music. I know services offer discovery, but I often switch songs instantly, whereas if its on the radio, I'm forced to listen to it, and songs often grow on me.

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by Mister_X »

hedora wrote: post #84
creeble wrote: post #65

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Listening now! While we're plugging: WFMU (NY) KALX (UC Berkeley) KZSC (UC Santa Cruz) KXT (listener-supported radio from Dallas/Ft Worth) Radio Paradise (no ads, listener supported) And many more...

More listener supported SF Bay Area stations worth checking out: KFJC 89.7 (Foothill College - Los Altos Hills) KBCZ 89.3 (Community radio - Boulder Creek) KPOO 89.5 (SF) KSQD 90.7 (Community radio - Natural Bridges Media) KDFC (multiple frequencies) (Classical music)

Yay, KFJC FM where I started my radio career in 1979. It's still a great station to hear "new" music.

https://kfjc.org

Re: Turn the radio volume down for adverts and DJs talking

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Post by matheusmoreira »

satvikpendem wrote: post #66
progmetaldev wrote: post #18

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This is great. I wish there was a way to limit the volume on Alexa devices for different services, especially Spotify. I like to fall asleep to podcasts, but it wakes my girlfriend up when the commercials start (especially iHeartRadio commercials!), so I either have it so low I can barely hear or I have to fall asleep to rain/ocean sounds.

When are we getting a SponsorBlock for podcasts?

SponsorBlock is just a collection of timestamps relating to sponsored content and other annoyances. It should add support for audio only content if it doesn't alteady have it.
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