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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by thereare5lights »

bigtex wrote: post #357
rodgerd wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He supports LibsofTikTok, which has resulting in whole hospitals being shut down by terrorists. He unbanned Taleb Kweli, who was banned for using twitter to stalk, harass, and organise mobs against a woman he didn't like. His campaign against Yoel Roth has resulted in Roth and his family having to flee their house. He's very, very happy with threats, including death threats if they are people that he doesn't like.

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> Please provide evidence for this bold accusation

Accusation

> He's very, very happy with threats, including death threats if they are people that he doesn't like.

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> He supports LibsofTikTok, which has resulting in whole hospitals being shut down by terrorists.

> He unbanned Taleb Kweli, who was banned for using twitter to stalk, harass, and organise mobs against a woman he didn't like.

> His campaign against Yoel Roth has resulted in Roth and his family having to flee their house.

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by hajile »

antod wrote: post #347
ClassicOrgin wrote: post #263

What I really like about ElonJet and Sweeney's other accounts is they included emission estimates. Really blew a hole in the idea that you could ever consider Musk or Gates to be environmentalists. A recent Musk flight between Washington and Miami emitted 9 tons of CO2 [1], which is nearly double what a fuel inefficient car would emit each year. How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of c…

> How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of commercial flights each year when you've got multiple Teslas and hundreds of private flights each year? Because there are hundreds of thousands (millions?) of other truck owners also using the same justification to keep their truck? This isn't sticking up for hypocritical wasteful billionaires, just pointing there are not very many of them in th…

The 15 largest shipping container ships produce as much sulfur pollution as all non-commercial cars on the entire planet put together. There's thousands of those ships. Of all vehicle pollution, something like 95+% of it is large commercial vehicles.

Your switching from a truck to a car makes effectively ZERO difference in global emissions. If EVERY non-commercial vehicle in the US went down to ZERO pollution, it wouldn't even be noticed in the statistical noise of the country's pollution.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by dmix »

pgodzin wrote: post #310

Many people have been trying to get the point across that legal, unlimited free speech can put people in harm's way. Elon is happy to say that he's willing to trade harm to those people for his free speech principles, but as soon as his family is the one facing the repercussions, he's happy to change policy and sue.

Streisand effect refutes this, especially for a famous person very overtly banning something.

There is no gain from censorship besides a limited set of cases, most of which are illegal but obviously some cases beyond that. Still very very far from the level of censorship being pushed by the Reddit/Twitter crowd these days (‘misinformation’ being bannable is a cancer on society).

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by wpietri »

jacquesm wrote: post #79
KyleJune wrote: post #64

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They banned it again about 8 minutes ago. I was scrolling through the linked thread when it got suspended and the tweets disappeared.

He should make up his mind about this 'free speech' thing and then stick to whatever decision he comes up with for at least a couple of months. This is beyond silly.

I think he and quite a number of people who wave the "free speech" banner are pretty consistent here. Anything the ingroup says comes under free speech. Anything the outgroup says is a shocking imposition on the freedoms of the ingroup.

It fits pretty well with Musk's "woke" obsession. He should be able to do and say whatever he wants. But if he gets booed in response, then "The woke mind virus is either defeated or nothing else matters". Because the booers couldn't possibly be equal humans using freedom of speech to express their feelings.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by sethd »

hakanderyal wrote: post #96

Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

He’s a chronic liar so unless there’s evidence to the contrary, I’ll assume it’s bullshit.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by brezelgoring »

bigtex wrote: post #357
rodgerd wrote: post #343

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He supports LibsofTikTok, which has resulting in whole hospitals being shut down by terrorists. He unbanned Taleb Kweli, who was banned for using twitter to stalk, harass, and organise mobs against a woman he didn't like. His campaign against Yoel Roth has resulted in Roth and his family having to flee their house. He's very, very happy with threats, including death threats if they are people that he doesn't like.

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For first point: https_//twitter_com/libsoftiktok/status/1592655096252608513

'Supports' does a lot of work in his post, 'mingles with' or 'enjoys the content of' is closer to the truth. Philosophical alignment with that kind of characters betrays contempt for certain groups.

For second point: https_//www.thefader_com/2022/12/13/elon-musk-talib-kweli-twitter-ban

A few boos are enough to make him re-platform a dude with that kind of public record? It shows brittle spirit, as his friend Dave Chappelle would say.

For third point: https_//nymag_com/intelligencer/2022/12/elon-musk-smears-former-twitter-executive-yoel-roth.html

This one is the one that's serious, this kind of thing could amount to stochastic terrorism, but no one cares, because he's rich beyond measure, and that makes people excuse his every indiscretion.

It was a cursory google search, and while the burden of proof is on the one making the statements, it costs little to check it yourself.

It definitely isn't a good look for him, and while looks aren't that important, it does paint a picture of a man that has principles only outwardly, a man that is petty, and a man that thinks the world bends to his very word. It doesn't matter, though, the title 'billionaire' tells us that much, and grants him those powers.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by fma »

IMHO Elon is causing controversy to keep Twitter relevant. Amongst his many skills, he's a showman. Every little thing he tweets gets amplified by the media and places like HN. He needs activity to maintain relwvance and revenue. He's also become a diety of sorts for conservatives and IMHO likely trying to pull them back in after they left Twitter for other sites, or even for good.

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Post by rideontime »

drexlspivey wrote: post #159
ketralnis wrote: post #97

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Oh cool so he'll immediately start acting on all of the other stalkers everywhere too, right? Obviously

The same dude who was the elonjet account has accounts for many other celebrities planes, Bezos, Drake etc. They were all taken down

Not at the same time, only hours later (but still before the policy was scribbled).

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Post by zerohp »

earleybird wrote: post #160
zerohp wrote: post #123

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Yeah what kind of car maker would pioneer something like that?

You must be thinking of OnStar :-)

Tesla's implementation is materially different in that it's not optional and cannot be trivially disabled.

Early Onstar vehicles are trivial to disable and later ones can still be disabled by removing the radio transceiver. The vehicle operates normally without it, unlike a Tesla.

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