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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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It's a private space. He can do what he likes. We draw conclusions about what we think, but thats going to good-or-bad justified-or-unjustified consistent-or-inconsistent as matters of opinion. I note that he said he wanted a space with less constraint. He said it quite simply and directly. He's capable of both changing his mind, and in believing this is consistent, and in not caring either way. I left twitter some t…

I'm curious where people see Musk in terms of his politics. I see him as center/right-center (U.S) with the occasional right troll post.

The part that I don't like about him taking over Twitter is this: When he initially took over I was under the impression that he wanted to promote a free-speech platform that is primarily designed for thoughtful dialogue between people. However, I'm not sure the platform will trend towards this when he has so many troll posts (given his influence on the platform).

I think that given its current trajectory the platform in a few months will consist of primarily right-leaning individuals, and far-left individuals who feel it is their duty to constantly debate the right.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Elon posted some info[0] that gives it some context: "Last night, car carrying lil X in LA was followed by crazy stalker (thinking it was me), who later blocked car from moving & climbed onto hood. Legal action is being taken against Sweeney & organizations who supported harm to my family." Make that what you will. [0]: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603190155107794944

Legal action being taken against the person who pulled public flight information and published already public information? The sad part is I’m sure Elon can bury this guy in fees even if the lawsuit is ultimately ruled as entirely without merit.

IANAL so correct me if I’m wrong but it looks like Musk has a decent chance of getting SLAPPed back [1] to kingdom come.

Twitter may be a private entity but the lawsuit is clearly meant to stifle the distribution of public information. Now that he owns one of the largest social media platforms used to distribute stuff like CALFire emergency announcements, that jet information is not only already public but arguably that information is now in the public interest

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_lawsuit_against_pu...

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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He should make up his mind about this 'free speech' thing and then stick to whatever decision he comes up with for at least a couple of months. This is beyond silly.

In general I'm an Elon fan but it's funny watching him kinda learn why things are the way they are. He supported it in theory until he learned that it could affect not just him but his family.

If this is "why things were the way they were" why hadn't Twitter already banned the account?

Either:

1) This is a change to policy, or

2) Twitter didn't enforce the rules evenly to punish people they didn't like, like Elon

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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"Doxxing" isn't illegal and never has been.

It isn't legal in California > Every person who, with intent to place another person in reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of the other person’s immediate family, by means of an electronic communication device, and without consent of the other person, and for the purpose of imminently causing that other person unwanted physical contact, injury, or harassment, by a third party, electronically distrib…

Despite Musks claims, there's zero evidence that Sweeney has ever done anything with intent to place someone in fear for their safety. And, given that it operated for years without issue, there is in fact compelling evidence to the contrary.

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"Doxxing" isn't illegal and never has been.

It isn't legal in California > Every person who, with intent to place another person in reasonable fear for his or her safety, or the safety of the other person’s immediate family, by means of an electronic communication device, and without consent of the other person, and for the purpose of imminently causing that other person unwanted physical contact, injury, or harassment, by a third party, electronically distrib…

> with intent to place another person in reasonable fear for his or her safety

This would cover LibsOfTikTok, but not ElonJet

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It's definitely hard to figure out the logic where it's OK to ban someone for posting plane data because it might be misused for dangerous while it's bad evil censorship to ban the President while he's actively trying to overturn the results of a lawful election.

Contesting the results of an election is entirely different to publishing location data with the intent to cause physical harm. Disputing election results is also part of the democratic process, even if you disagree with it, and should be encouraged. There is nothing in the public interesting concerned with stalking people.

Disputing elections in good faith and lawfully is part of the democratic process.

Incitement of insurrection after lawful means have been exhausted is by definition not part of the democratic process.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Maybe the booing in person and Dave Chappelle's comment about the booing being pending civil unrest spooked Elon a bit. His right wing shit posting on twitter reaches a lot of people and many dislike him for it. I've been seeing a lot more people posting about boycotting Tesla and associating ownership with his views. I drive a Tesla and frequently people bring up Elon to me. I usually just tell people I don't like/c…

I don't want to support this guy in any way shape or form. The damage he's doing is rapidly undoing any good that he's done so far and he's on the expressway to net-negative territory. I'm sure you have a point though: to step out of his bubble of yes-men must have been a cold shower.

Consider the possibility that destroying Twitter is also a net-positive action. :)

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That is publicly available information. How hard is to grasp that?

Do you have kids?

Won’t somebody /please/ think of the children?!?!

I have kids. This whole thing is stupid. Elon is a hypocrite.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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What I really like about ElonJet and Sweeney's other accounts is they included emission estimates. Really blew a hole in the idea that you could ever consider Musk or Gates to be environmentalists. A recent Musk flight between Washington and Miami emitted 9 tons of CO2 [1], which is nearly double what a fuel inefficient car would emit each year. How can you tell me I'm the problem with my single truck and couple of c…

This is always the commentary about leaders and business people from all over the world flying their private jets to Davos to discuss solutions to climate change.

And rightly so. If they're that concerned they can video conference like the rest of us.
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