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Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by hunterb123 »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #229
hunterb123 wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wait so you're saying doxing is on the same level as dissenting the government? one thing is broadcasting personal information about a citizen, one is protecting a citizens right to object to actions by their government. collecting public information is still doxxing. most doxxing involves only public information as it happens across the internet. edit: a downvote is not a rebuttal, sorry, try again.

Aircraft are all publicly tracked. All this account did was create a bot to take the info from the FAA site and post it to Twitter.

Much information about a person is publicly available, that doesn't mean it's not doxxing when you gather it and broadcast it.

Whether you are finding someone's email, or real name, or jet location, or home address, and then announce it, you are doxxing them.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by VectorLock »

bagels wrote: post #191
dfghjkl2589 wrote: post #140

legal asked us to ban it again after they learned elon's goal. which was to shadownban-2.0 the account when needed to delay news of certain travel. he came up with the idea when we pointed out other smaller accounts started to post the info and we were considering flagging them as bot last week.

Assuming this is true, and elonjet can post to multiple places... might make a good way to detect which travels are notable.

Good job Elon you just Warrant Canary'd ElonJet for them.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

memish wrote: post #116
TheLoafOfBread wrote: post #104

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Countless literal death threats didn't do it. https://twitter.com/dataracer117/status/1519167734910619649?... But when it starts getting that close to kids, maybe you'd start to take it more seriously too.

Hey remember the last time Musk used a claim about one of his kids to justify an action that against was what he previously said would be his policy? What was that, a week ago?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by jacquesm »

bentlegen wrote: post #101
MallocVoidstar wrote: post #88

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It's a hastily-written rule designed to ban Things Musk Doesn't Like while allowing things he does. See also the exception: > In addition, you may not share private media, such as images or videos of private individuals, without their consent. However, we recognise that there are instances where users may share images or videos of private individuals, who are not public figures, as part of a newsworthy event or to fu…

So is Hunter Biden’s private media now banned again? Maybe not, as long as “Twitter” decides it is newsworthy (but in such a way that Elon’s media or location is not)? My head is spinning.

That was a rhetorical question?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by ProjectArcturis »

DoesntMatter22 wrote: post #222
jacquesm wrote: post #79

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He should make up his mind about this 'free speech' thing and then stick to whatever decision he comes up with for at least a couple of months. This is beyond silly.

In general I'm an Elon fan but it's funny watching him kinda learn why things are the way they are. He supported it in theory until he learned that it could affect not just him but his family.

I could see being an Elon fan ~5 years ago, pre-pedo guy, and before it became clear that all of his promises are lies. Why now?

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by nwiswell »

cfpg wrote: post #34
SXX wrote: post #21

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I wonder how does Elon expect any journalist to follow these rules? Big chunk of information from press is reporting on public figures location and sometimes this include reporting in real time.

Well, in the next hour, a journalist is going to get banned, a campaign will come up to get them unbanned, and Twitter will change the rule. We'll be fine.

"this is fine"

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by 8note »

memish wrote: post #35
hesInstigating wrote: post #25

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He’s instigated death threats against Fauci. No one asked either of them to be public figures. They can go away whenever they want. Their status is not an immutable law of reality and humanity tends to have a history of not giving a toss about being helicoptered by self aggrandizing individuals. The data is available real time by law elsewhere. He’s not routing around anything, just trying to insulate himself from co…

> He’s instigated death threats against Fauci. No he has not. In fact I bet you can't show us where he's called for anyone's death.

Instigated isn't the same as called for, and called for isn't the standard being used to justify banning elonsjet.

Fauci received death threats, therefore all related tweets should be removed.

Crafting consistent moderation policies is a hard problem (kudos to dang and team)

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by VectorLock »

hunterb123 wrote: post #202
tough wrote: post #174

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wait this is wild, so much for free speech 2.0

wait so you're saying doxing is on the same level as dissenting the government? one thing is broadcasting personal information about a citizen, one is protecting a citizens right to object to actions by their government. collecting public information is still doxxing. most doxxing involves only public information as it happens across the internet. edit: a downvote is not a rebuttal, sorry, try again.

When he is crowing with #TwitterFiles faux leaks about how an internal cabal were making policy decisions about banning people, then making an extra-policy decision banning something he didn't like (posting public information) and then trying to backport policy for it.. The whole thing rings a bit hollow.

Re: Twitter has re-suspended ElonJet account

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Post by kivle »

drexlspivey wrote: post #159
ketralnis wrote: post #97

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Oh cool so he'll immediately start acting on all of the other stalkers everywhere too, right? Obviously

The same dude who was the elonjet account has accounts for many other celebrities planes, Bezos, Drake etc. They were all taken down

About 4 hours after the news story broke though. It seemed more like damage control than anything.
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