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This appears to be the new policy: https://twitter.com/TwitterSafety/status/1603165959669354496

I wonder how does Elon expect any journalist to follow these rules? Big chunk of information from press is reporting on public figures location and sometimes this include reporting in real time.

That’s nonsense.

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Twitter is a private co/platform so Elon can do whatever he wants (within the law). Doesn't mean that users (like me) are going to be happy or continue using Twitter.

Most of you will continue to use it.

I use it much less already; but I think you're right, most people will stay on regardless.

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Legal action being taken against the person who pulled public flight information and published already public information? The sad part is I’m sure Elon can bury this guy in fees even if the lawsuit is ultimately ruled as entirely without merit.

Your home location is also public info. Publishing it on twitter is still doxxing and always has been.

"Doxxing" isn't illegal and never has been.

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The idea that this is somehow doxxing is beyond ridiculous. It's public data thaat anyone can read on a website (eg flightradar) or pick up themselves with a cheap receiver. That system is ADS-B. Knowing your plane (and not necessarily you) is at 37,000 feet above Iowa only represents a threat to someone with a serious SAM capability or interceptor jets. Or even that it's at LAX.

Think about this: we know where Air Force One is.

So why is this public? The design and history of ADS-B is an interesting topic that was talked about more during in its development and rollout. One of the design elements that's questionable is that there's really no verification on the broadcast data. You can broadcast what you want. There are demoes of people hooking up Flight Simulator and showing the ADS-B transmissions they could make that would mimic their location, altitude and heading. They didn't do broadcast it of course. It's a felony to do so.

All of this sprung from the desire to get rid of ground radar at airports. There are lots of reasons for this, some good, some questionable.

But it remains clear that this represents a plausible security threat.

So you can ask should ADS-B data be public? Well there's really no alternative. It's designed that way. The FAA has been working on privacy options for this. I'm not sure the current status.

Anyway, people rail on Elon in particular because he's so incredibly thin-skinned (eg banning people posting clips of him getting booed when onstage with Dave Chappelle) and he's a self-proclaimed "free speech absolutist", which everyone knows is a complete lie. Elon banning ElonJet is yet more evidence of that lie. People take great pleasure in such people getting egg on their face.

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This change is going to make it very easy to shut down OSINT accounts that geolocate people.

Devils Advocate: why would that be a bad thing?

OSINT accounts provide detailed information on a number of global conflicts, not just the ones that get covered in the media. And the level of detail and analysis is almost always better than what you get in the mainstream media.

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Devils Advocate: why would that be a bad thing?

Because there is actual war going on? Information about Russian government aircrafts or Putin's oligarchs private jets leaving country can be important in real time. Musk banned those too.

It's Twitter. Militaries shouldn't be depending on Twitter accounts for their intel.

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I am usually getting on a bus or train.

Yeah, Elon and his family are going to take the Greyhound.

If he wanted to, he would buy it first. The company, obviously, not a single bus.

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I wonder how does Elon expect any journalist to follow these rules? Big chunk of information from press is reporting on public figures location and sometimes this include reporting in real time.

"Reporting that Elon Musk is being arraigned at LA County Court House violates our ban on live location reporting."

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