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Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by mikeryan »

saw-lau wrote: post #370
perihelions wrote: post #109

He's also posted internal Twitter screenshots, allegedly showing a VP was personally involved in @ElonJet moderation. (In the context of an earlier moderation action -- visibility filtering ("VF")). - "A screenshot of what he claimed was an internal Slack channel showed Ella Irwin, the person appointed to replace Yoel Roth as Twitter’s new head of trust and safety, asking a “Team” to “please apply heavy VF to @elonje…

I've never come across the term 'heavy VF' before - can somebody clue me in?

From my read of the “Twitter Files” I hey have multiple levels of ways to reduce a tweets reach. Not allowing a tweet to trend, not show up in Search etc. I believe the “heavy” part refers to how many, and how hard these levers are pulled.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by jacquesm »

FactolSarin wrote: post #516
theturtletalks wrote: post #401

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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44 billion was around 25% of his net worth. That's a lot of money, even for Musk. If his current actions cause Tesla to be viewed less favorably and sales to decline, it could cost him a lot more than that

Consider it done, check out the Tesla stock trajectory for the last six months or so.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by memish »

jszymborski wrote: post #666

When the Elon/Twitter transaction went through, there were a lot of HN comments stating that they thought that this might actually mean a more open, "freer" Twitter. When I mentioned that Elon had already been using his power unilaterally to re-platform personal allies like Babylon Bee and Ye, I got all sorts of pedantry about the difference between suspension and banning, more pedantry about the Ye reactivation happ…

This assumes a lot. They have a moderation team that doesn't run every thing through him personally.

They've also been aggressive about banning bots and valid stuff has gotten caught in that net.

I'll be not at all surprised if it's unbanned by end of day or we learn more details about what actually happened.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by yakubin »

A bit of a tangent: where does the knowledge about which jet is Musk's (in this case N628TS) come from? Are ownership records of jets public information? Isn't that a privacy issue? Imagine if that was the case for cars. It's pretty much a given that governments can track both, but just a random person being able to do that is even worse IMO.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by anigbrowl »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #270
marricks wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> People are acting like Musk changed course for no reason I'm not sure that's the case. I think many people, myself included, assumed Musk's course was always "just do what's best for me." So he's really just holding to that. You should give people in your life the benefit of the doubt, but large corporations and billionaires usually found success by acting in their own interest so they will just keep on doing that.

> large corporations and billionaires usually found success by acting in their own interest so they will just keep on doing that I mean, if you have to irrationally hate someone, I guess billionaires are going to be the ones with the resources to handle it, but I'd really rather we as a society move away from this sort of cathartic scapegoating altogether. The more we normalize taking our anger out on some group or a…

irrationally hate

premise rejected

You seem to be arguing that only billionaires can rationally hate other billionaires, and anyone who is not on that level can't be rational, because they don't understand what's going on with billionaires. If they they did, they too would be billionaires. This might be narrowly correct in pure business terms, but the problem is that you subordinate everything else to the most unusual characteristic. It's like arguing that the controversial political opinions of a successful athlete aren't subject to debate, because critics haven't won any sportsball championships.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by heywherelogingo »

jszymborski wrote: post #666

When the Elon/Twitter transaction went through, there were a lot of HN comments stating that they thought that this might actually mean a more open, "freer" Twitter. When I mentioned that Elon had already been using his power unilaterally to re-platform personal allies like Babylon Bee and Ye, I got all sorts of pedantry about the difference between suspension and banning, more pedantry about the Ye reactivation happ…

Or maybe he just thinks you can use your block button instead of censoring someone other people like.

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Post by lisper »

pigtailgirl wrote: post #752
lisper wrote: post #638

Can someone please explain to me what/who is ElonJet and why I should care that he/she/it has been suspended?

-- bot account that tweets location of Elons private jet --

Ah, thanks.

In that case I don't understand what all the fuss is about. I am about as unsympathetic to Elon Musk as you can get, but it still seems reasonable to me to shut down what is essentially an automated doxxer.

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Post by boopboopbadoop »

zarathustreal wrote: post #210
mathlover2 wrote: post #146

Big. Freaking. Surprise. I really hope the account is able to find a home elsewhere. EDIT: He has a Facebook page and a website. I am definitely going to be using the latter.

...? What exactly do you plan on using it for?

For spite.

Re: ElonJet Is Now Suspended

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Post by singleshot_ »

bko wrote: post #597
electrondood wrote: post #470

I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…

I think a reasonable policy would be you can't post the location of people against their will. Seems like a big security concern. Just because its publicly accessible by some means doesn't mean its okay to blast out. If you agree its fine, would you apply the same reasoning to [favorite politician]? How about a bot that crowdsources the whereabouts of [politician] at any time?

> a bot that crowdsourced the whereabouts of [politician] at any time?

Oh my god. That would be horrifying. Can you imagine?

https://mobile.twitter.com/potusschedbot

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