The account seems to be up and running when I click the link.
If anything this shows how badly people want to find anything to criticize Musk for. Accounts get flagged, give it half a day at least.
ElonJet Is Now Suspended
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#582Stalking is not free speech.
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#583Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just so we're clear: You'll be totally in favor of maintaining the accounts of anyone who routinely posts the location of others, including yourself, right? Because that's not stalking at all... right?
Relitigating this is not going to be fruitful: Elon Musk is a public figure who chooses to fly by private jet. Callsigns and flight status are public information by necessity.
Being a public figure does not mean you have a right to stalk and harass him. It means you get to have a higher bar to charges of defamation for things said about them and nothing more.
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#584I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…
I'm flabbergasted by the overwhelming response that this account should be allowed "in the name of Free Speech". This isn't a free speech issue. This is a personal safety issue. It is a personal attack towards Musk. As high profile as he is, and the amount of controversy surrounding him, he certainly has a target on his back. I consider that account a form of Doxxing, and I can't think of any good reason it should be…
You’re “flabbergasted”?
This is publicly available information.
What exactly is the safety threat with this twitter acct?
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#585I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…
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#586Coincidentally, the @TweetTweaker account — which AFAIK was the first to call wide attention [0] to Elon buying up twitter shares right after his $5k offer to @ElonJet was rebuffed — is currently suspended. Its last public interaction was around Nov 6, 2022 [1] https://archive.vn/WLXQJ [1] https://twitter.com/GreatPaul_Smith/status/15894241378646097...
It's pretty amazing that one guy tweeting public info made Elon spend 44 billion.
I believe the purchase was $44B. Elon only has some personal stake, there are loans and other investors I think. I don't know if the specific accounting of the sale is public info.
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#587I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…
I'm flabbergasted by the overwhelming response that this account should be allowed "in the name of Free Speech". This isn't a free speech issue. This is a personal safety issue. It is a personal attack towards Musk. As high profile as he is, and the amount of controversy surrounding him, he certainly has a target on his back. I consider that account a form of Doxxing, and I can't think of any good reason it should be…
Is someone paying you to outcry the publishing of already public information?
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#588I understand this move, but need to point out how hypocritical this is for Mr. Free Speech. Basically, his entire tenure so far has been "free speech for me and the accounts that were rightfully banned for violating the TOS!" in public, and then "we'll deboost anyone who doesn't pay me a subscription" and "let's selectively release internal comms in a misleading way to make normal company operation in good faith seem…
I'm flabbergasted by the overwhelming response that this account should be allowed "in the name of Free Speech". This isn't a free speech issue. This is a personal safety issue. It is a personal attack towards Musk. As high profile as he is, and the amount of controversy surrounding him, he certainly has a target on his back. I consider that account a form of Doxxing, and I can't think of any good reason it should be…
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#589Where are all the principled “it’s a private company” people now lol.
“it’s a private company” is an argument about legality. Doesn't mean you can't criticize or make fun of a company or its Chief Twit for what it does.
That argument was most commonly used in the past to dismiss criticisms of corporate social media policy, even when there was no mention of legality or government intervention.
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#590Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don’t mean to be a antagonistic but as the owner of twitter why would we expect he not have the right and ability to ban anyone he likes? When it was publicly held there was some accountability to the shareholders as part of the public. Now he can literally carry a sink around wherever he wants
Nobody said he didn't have the right to do it. It's his company now. However he said he wanted twitter to be a free speech platform of some sort, so that's seen as hypocritical.
Moreover, I think that this erratic behavior is going to crater Tesla stock [1]. Regardless of your political leanings, Twitter Elon is showing signs of weakness, distraction, emotional decision making, and an inability to avoid suboptimal choices. In a very public forum, with all of the world watching and media stacked against him.
Elon is looking like he got suckered into buying Twitter and now has to play the difficult and mundane role of private equity turnaround so that he can recoup his -- and his investors' -- funds. It's a huge distraction from his more important businesses.
Folks are already asking him to step down as Tesla CEO [2]. Best to kick a dog while he's down.
I think Tesla has been overvalued for some time. It's not the only EV company in the world, and soon every company (and domestic production capacity worth its salt) will be pumping out EV options for consumers. This Twitter deal was the activation energy required to jostle the Tesla stock out of its lofty position.
I hope I'm wrong, and that things at Twitter begin to stabilize. I think that SpaceX is one of the most important companies in the world right now, and it needs a leader who can continue to push the boundaries of what was thought possible.
[1] I'm thinking of putting my money where my mouth is and buying puts, which is something I rarely do.
[2] https://www.autoevolution.com/news/unconfirmed-reports-claim...