It was only a matter of time, I can't believe anyone fell for this. As soon as he started banning "parodies" of himself this was the only logical next escalation.
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#322Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flight information provided to the FAA is considered public information. This is funded with taxpayer money, and is not privy to privacy.
To put it in such a highly accessible form is an invitation to crackpots. Crackpots and mobs generally do not get incited by FAA travel logs that requires some diligence to track.
Oh, so this publicly accessible information should not be subject to free speech, even though it's clearly publicly available? Should all speech that could incite crackpots be limited?
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#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: Is there an alternative narrative here? People are acting like Musk changed course for no reason, but are there no real claims that the account perhaps had started to engage in other rule-breaking content? Note that I'm asking for an actual steelmanned argument for why there's no possible defense of Musk here, not why people have high priors to just assume there's no defense.
Free speech is subject to rules? Because Twitter had rules and they enforced those rules which led to bans/suspensions...and people were upset about that on free speech grounds.
The implication that free speech people are hypocrites is a little premature. The policies just changed. I'm sure there will be several opportunities before the day is over to gotcha someone in some genuine hypocrisy, but let's see how this one plays out.
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#324Earlier quoted context omitted.
Remember all those comments on HN for how right Musk is to decent free speech and how this is definitely going to improve Twitter? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Lets not pretend that just because some people happened to be right, that is an indicator of some information that they had. Most of the hate towards Twitter came from hate towards Musk.
Predicting future actions based on past behavior is not some kind of magic, nor is it guesswork. People didn't throw a chip on black and spin the roulette wheel -- they made a very reasonable assumption and ended up correct. Whether there was hate involved or not is irrelevant.
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#325Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm guessing bankruptcy has always been the plan, but I never really understood why his financial backers would knowingly light a pile of money on fire. For oppressive governments, it seems easier to monitor & block activity on one major social media platform, rather than quashing twitter and dealing with the dozens of platforms that rise from the ashes. Maybe it's a megalomaniac dictator thing, and I will never unde…
Musk's grand plan is to lose $30B or so of his own money, plus $13B from bankers who trusted that he would pay them back? That does not seem plausible to me.
Well, I would say that he didn't lose it so much as he spent it to destroy Twitter out of spite. In which case he must be getting value for his money, he certainly seems to be enjoying himself.
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#326Lets generalize the concept of ElonJet , are we ok for apps disclosing localization of anybody main vehicle? e.g.: the localization at any time of the day of your car? or let generalize more: your localization at any moment of the day or the localization of your underage son or daughter? For my case I wouldn't like that at all nonetheless the fact that I am totally unimportant, and I don't see people that frees that…
Elonjet was just reposting public information. Don't want your jet to be tracked? Don't buy a jet.
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#327Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's because they've largely proven to be uninteresting or unsurprising. The two big reveals early on were: - The Biden family tried to get what is effectively revenge porn taken down from Twitter before he was elected. - Twitter had labels for high-profile accounts like libsoftiktok that meant "don't ban this person without some higher-up approval" In both cases they were deliberately presented in a misleadi…
> The Biden family tried to get what is effectively revenge porn taken down from Twitter before he was elected. I don't understand why this gets so oft repeated. The Post article ( https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden... ) contains nothing resembling porn. There are some pictures of Hunter with a crack pipe, but that's not even a revelation. We already knew he had a drug problem. What is a rev…
You’re talking about the contents of the laptop. Everyone else is talking about the tweets the Biden campaign asked Twitter to remove. The Biden campaign did not ask Twitter to remove all content regarding the laptop, they asked Twitter to remove a few specific tweets which contained pornographic images of Hunter Biden non-consensually posted to the internet.
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#328Earlier quoted context omitted.
Serious question: Is there an alternative narrative here? People are acting like Musk changed course for no reason, but are there no real claims that the account perhaps had started to engage in other rule-breaking content? Note that I'm asking for an actual steelmanned argument for why there's no possible defense of Musk here, not why people have high priors to just assume there's no defense.
He literally just unbanned an account that tried to run a coup on the federal government and yet an account that shows where his jet is is dangerous? Which is it? Because it seems like "I don't like it" is the new justification for bans and "I agree with it" is the new justification for unblocking accounts.
I believe the account he banned vs unbanned has a distinction. One account alligns with his long term strategy for $x whereas the other competes against his $x strategy.
It's difficult to say what said strategy is or may be but it'd be foolish to assume his decisions haven't been considered and vetted. But yes, intent is not well understood at all.
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
Flight information provided to the FAA is considered public information. This is funded with taxpayer money, and is not privy to privacy.
To put it in such a highly accessible form is an invitation to crackpots. Crackpots and mobs generally do not get incited by FAA travel logs that requires some diligence to track.
Flightradar24, as well as all sorts of similar services (FlightAware, ADSB-Exchange, etc.) let anyone watch the location of any aircraft with ADS-B in real time (as well as list everywhere the plain has been and playback previous flights)
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#330Seems bots have invaded HN. Very weird echo chamber-ish thread.
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