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No, this is publicly available information. Flight tracks are not private
ElonJet Is Now Suspended
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Serious question: Is there an alternative narrative here? People are acting like Musk changed course for no reason, but are there no real claims that the account perhaps had started to engage in other rule-breaking content? Note that I'm asking for an actual steelmanned argument for why there's no possible defense of Musk here, not why people have high priors to just assume there's no defense.
Like what? Musk, the self-proclaimed free speech absolutionist, said he removed most policies and whatnot.
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#193Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456
Serious question: Is there an alternative narrative here? People are acting like Musk changed course for no reason, but are there no real claims that the account perhaps had started to engage in other rule-breaking content? Note that I'm asking for an actual steelmanned argument for why there's no possible defense of Musk here, not why people have high priors to just assume there's no defense.
Because Twitter had rules and they enforced those rules which led to bans/suspensions...and people were upset about that on free speech grounds.
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No, this is publicly available information. Flight tracks are not private
So are phone numbers and addresses if you look hard enough, but Twitters policy “or they claim” is to protect against doxing and such right?
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>But tracking a flight like this on a regular basis to this intrusive a level strikes me as downright creepy and personally invasive. Yeah, people are saying "it's public info about a public figure", but I'm pretty sure that we could imagine all sorts of creepy-yet-legal digital gang-stalking that one can do, similar to how doxxing is legal but nearly-universally frowned upon. Not to say that the account should have…
He took the company private to promote his politics. There have been lies about free speech for as long as there has been speech. Can we stop clutching our pearls over this reactionary being, gasp, dishonest?
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#196Dozing a person’s whereabouts isn’t free speech - yes I know you can fish this information out but it’s obvious this is intended to make it easy to figure out where he is. I’m amazed at the replies to this thread arguing this is a speech issue, especially considering the obvious need for heightened security due to what I’d imagine is a flood of death threats.
And it was Elon who stated free speech over everything.
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#197I think Elon is/was trying to bring back the "glory days" of the internet where free speech was the driving force behind tons of early internet projects. Seemingly everyone was onboard with the internet being humanities bastion of free speech and that had to be protected at all costs. Then the wild west internet was developed into a city and well, you just can't walk around shooting your gun wherever you want anymore…
Yeeah, when people who criticized Musk literally once have to flee their houses, due to rampant and false accusations of pedophilia from Musk friends, we can totally talk about free speech.
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#198Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456
Serious question: Is there an alternative narrative here? People are acting like Musk changed course for no reason, but are there no real claims that the account perhaps had started to engage in other rule-breaking content? Note that I'm asking for an actual steelmanned argument for why there's no possible defense of Musk here, not why people have high priors to just assume there's no defense.
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#199Just an observation, but it seems that the Twitter files revelations are getting drastically less press than everything else Elon does. It almost feels like kill the messenger
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#200Well it seems like Elon is reneging on his previous commitment to free speech. - https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1589414958508691456
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