Earlier quoted context omitted.
> They didn't say "fork of Electron" Flagging that the phrase "this should be a fork of Chromium, not Electron" is ambiguous between "this shouldn't be a fork of Electron" and "this shouldn't be Electron".
The phrasing is ambiguous, I agree. However, as forking Electron to make Min wouldn't make any sense, and the replier knew this, reading it to mean that seems like a mistake to me. The fact is that it can be very difficult to write things that aren't ambiguous at some level (albeit that isn't the case here), so the reader has to make a good-faith effort to understand.
Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy
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Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy
#82A browser in electron? At this point just use chromium - makes no difference. Anyway, use firefox or librewolf. Stop enabling the chromium monopoly!
> Anyway, use firefox or librewolf. Stop enabling the chromium monopoly! Or Safari of course, it's really a great browser if one's on the Mac.
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#84I just hope, this kind of paves the way for developers themselves to add features and capabilities.
Other browsers in this space - Polypane[0], Sizzy[1], Blisk[2]
[0]: https://polypane.app/ [1]: https://sizzy.co [2]: https://blisk.io
Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
The advantage of Min would be the UI, which I find quite appealing myself.
One might argue this should be a fork of Chromium, not Electron. Chromium comes with native tabs and a bunch of other useful parts, without the security issues that Electron exposes.
Fair enough point. One reason it's Electron, I assume, is that it's much easier for typical developers to build than forking Chromium. I've been there. I've hacked at building a touchless-controlled browser that uses hand gesture and speech recognition to interact with the web. I can cobble something basic together in Electron, but it's much more intensive to get off the ground forking Chromium (though you're right the native tabs and useful parts would be helpful).
> without the security issues that Electron exposes.
Another reasonable point. For reference, here's an overview of security from Electron itself.[1] Security issues are one reason I haven't pursued the touchless browser more actively. I don't know if it's a dealbreaker, but it's not my area of expertise and I'd need to get seriously up to speed before releasing anything.
From a glance, it does look like Min is trying to follow good security practices, such as having BrowserView webPreferences default to "nodeIntegration: false", "contextIsolation: true", etc.[2] And in the issues the maintainers seem aware of security issues, eg:
> Making internal pages have the same privileges as the browser UI would be nice, although it's kind of difficult to implement. You could add nodeintegration to the webview tag, but I think there's a pretty big risk of accidentaly loading a regular webpage with nodeintegration enabled if we do that, which would be bad.[3]
Ideally there wouldn't be such a large Chromium (and Chromium-based) monopoly on browsers, but overall I'm still glad to see projects like this trying to create different UI options.
[1] https://www.electronjs.org/docs/latest/tutorial/security
[2] https://github.com/minbrowser/min/blob/7aba03fb645334366f9ec...
[3] https://github.com/minbrowser/min/issues/554#issuecomment-38...
Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy
#86Don’t forgot about https://librewolf.net/ It’s Firefox with every privacy setting turned to max.
+1 for librewolf, but be sure to augment your security posture with the appropriate countermeasures when using such a unique fingerprint else your 'privacy' is just getting you moved to an even narrower, and more closely regarded list.
Warning: You are using Librewolf. Augment security posture with the appropriate countermeasures?
Yes | No | Continue | Abort | Cancel | Cancel with augmented security posture | Speak to elf
Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy
#87Don’t forgot about https://librewolf.net/ It’s Firefox with every privacy setting turned to max.
One warning that will avoid you some frustration: Librewolf's default settings delete all browsing history when the browser is closed. If you're using it on a private device and want to keep your history, change the setting the first time you run it. It's in the same place as in regular Firefox, nothing special.
Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy
#88Just... give Firefox a shot people. Please: https://i.imgur.com/81OpEOy.png
May I ask what you did to configure your browser that way (extensions/settings)? I like the look of it, and looking for ways to customize my setup.
Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy
#89Everyone's comparing this to a regular browser. But since it's electron based, I'm just wondering whether this could be a path to creating a really good browser for development. As of now, most of the debugging that's done on browsers are either based on the tools provided by the browser itself, or via extensions and add-ons. I just hope, this kind of paves the way for developers themselves to add features and capabi…
Re: Min: A fast, minimal browser that protects your privacy
#90A browser in electron? At this point just use chromium - makes no difference. Anyway, use firefox or librewolf. Stop enabling the chromium monopoly!