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Avenger controller company pisses off gaming community with bad customer support

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Re: Avenger controller company pisses off gaming community with bad customer support

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That was the right account, but it changed. Someone registered the old name and started tweeting stuff. The website was still pulling tweets from the original account a few minutes ago. The new account for the original is https://twitter.com/#!/oceanstratagy

Ocean Stratagy ? How could either of these misspelled Twitter accounts be legit?

The original (@oceanmarketting) was linked to the site, including all the tweets from the person who grabbed the name. Then the new one appeared with the same follower/following count, tweets, and profile info as the original. And the original emails had bad spelling.

Re: Avenger controller company pisses off gaming community with bad customer support

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Ocean Stratagy ? How could either of these misspelled Twitter accounts be legit?

The evidence points to illiteracy.

Oh, my goodness. A truly funny comment on Hacker News. Thank you for this.

Re: Avenger controller company pisses off gaming community with bad customer support

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I'm not sure. Admittedly, I genuinely try and avoid getting into pissing contents. Nobody wins, and you both get wet. In this case, though, the guy at Ocean seems to think that he's far more important than anybody else at the table, including his customers. As a business owner, this is not only a horrible attitude to take, but very dangerous. It's exactly like being the toughest kid in the neighborhood, which is grea…

I'm not letting the PR guy or the company itself off the hook, they're completely the losers in this case. I just can't excuse either side when it devolves into 2 children kicking sand on each other. Someone needs to be the bigger man, or else you both end up looking like fools; Even if one fool is the bigger fool.

It doesn't matter. There's an old saying, "The customer is always right". It doesn't matter if he is or isn't. You wanna stay in business, best to take that quote to heart.

Re: Avenger controller company pisses off gaming community with bad customer support

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At the risk of taking a potentially unpopular opinion on the subject, I don't think either one of those people come out looking too good. I'm all for doing the whole "CC your formal complaint letter to several outlets in hopes that someone will take notice" approach; My brother taught me about doing this when I was a little kid. He would write letters (this was before the advent of the internet) and note on the botto…

I see it mostly your way, only the customer has a right to be pissed off and the PR guy does not - though, he should have cooled off before sending that e-mail. I've done stupid things when angry as well, so I shouldn't judge. Edit: the link didn't work for me, had to go to the main Penny Arcade site.

..."hough, he should have cooled off before sending that e-mail."

Yup. Think before you speak. Or in this case, before you write.

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Choosing what to examine in the course of due diligence is often a function of experience. Should someone be lambasted for making a mistake their first time?

Well yes, otherwise what incentive do they have to get it right the first time? If and when the manufacturer dumps these guys and issues a public apology for their behavior, we certainly should forgive them. But it's still justifiable to place part of the responsibility on them for what happened.

Kotkin has issued and apology and fired Ocean Marketing... I'll try to find the link.

edit: http://i.imgur.com/axYAm.png

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Well yes, otherwise what incentive do they have to get it right the first time? If and when the manufacturer dumps these guys and issues a public apology for their behavior, we certainly should forgive them. But it's still justifiable to place part of the responsibility on them for what happened.

Kotkin has issued and apology and fired Ocean Marketing... I'll try to find the link. edit: http://i.imgur.com/axYAm.png

Good news! I couldn't find an official link, but did find this screenshot of an e-mail they sent out saying just that: http://i.imgur.com/axYAm.png

Re: Avenger controller company pisses off gaming community with bad customer support

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At the risk of taking a potentially unpopular opinion on the subject, I don't think either one of those people come out looking too good. I'm all for doing the whole "CC your formal complaint letter to several outlets in hopes that someone will take notice" approach; My brother taught me about doing this when I was a little kid. He would write letters (this was before the advent of the internet) and note on the botto…

Worst part, penny-arcade is now joining the race to the bottom.

"When these assholes threaten me or Penny Arcade I just laugh. I will personally burn everything I’ve made to the fucking ground if I think I can catch them in the flames."

Sigh. This whole thing is depressing in its entirety. Yes, Ocean Marketing is the main culprit there - but nobody in that fiasco comes out smelling roses.

Re: Avenger controller company pisses off gaming community with bad customer support

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Unfortunately firing Ocean Marketing may still be too little too late. Amazon ratings for the product[1] are already in the dumps because of this debacle, and I doubt many of those reviewers will go back and change their reviews as the situation goes along.

[1] http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005CMZJL6/

Re: Avenger controller company pisses off gaming community with bad customer support

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At the risk of taking a potentially unpopular opinion on the subject, I don't think either one of those people come out looking too good. I'm all for doing the whole "CC your formal complaint letter to several outlets in hopes that someone will take notice" approach; My brother taught me about doing this when I was a little kid. He would write letters (this was before the advent of the internet) and note on the botto…

There's no excuse for the rampant illiteracy of the marketing (?!) guy's emails.

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I see it mostly your way, only the customer has a right to be pissed off and the PR guy does not - though, he should have cooled off before sending that e-mail. I've done stupid things when angry as well, so I shouldn't judge. Edit: the link didn't work for me, had to go to the main Penny Arcade site.

..."hough, he should have cooled off before sending that e-mail." Yup. Think before you speak. Or in this case, before you write.

"When angry, count to ten. When very angry, swear."

Mark Twain iirc

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