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Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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Wow, a lot of histrionics in the comments. Like a wise man once said: "First principles, Clarice: simplicity. Read Marcus Aurelius, Of each particular thing, ask: What is it in itself? What is its nature?" The article is dealing with a foreign unregulated crypto-exchange and a US regulated stable coin.

Love the Lecter reference...

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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USDC withdrawals have been enabled again, but I don't suppose that's HN front-page worthy as much as the panic inducing titles. https://twitter.com/binance/status/1602708590271385600?s=20&...

Yes, suprisingly people seem to react negatively to being frozen out of withdrawing their cash and those events are newsworthy?

Its a pretty big leap from "you cannot withdraw this particular stablecoin at the moment, use another one" to "you cannot withdraw your cash". Devil is in the details.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

#293

USDC withdrawals have been enabled again, but I don't suppose that's HN front-page worthy as much as the panic inducing titles. https://twitter.com/binance/status/1602708590271385600?s=20&...

What about all the planes that made it to their destination? Why doesn't the news report that?

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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> The world's biggest crypto exchange will freeze all withdrawals of USD Coin while it conducts a "token swap" to boost its holdings of the dollar-pegged cryptocurrency, the crypto group's CEO Changpeng Zhao said Tuesday It's worth noting that USDC is not even a token controlled by Binance. It's controlled and issued by Circle. So effectively, Binance is refusing to honor its commitment to depositors to give them the…

> You "need" a stable coin because you're trying to have your cake and eat it too: US dollar-like liquidity and value preservation without US dollar financial regulation. That is not at all why people need/want USDC. People want stable coins because banks are all too happy refusing/blocking/reversing transactions to/from cryptocurrencies exchanges. They hypocrisy of both banks and the states on this one is amazing: "…

35 years old mom would be the perfect cover for an arms dealer to cash out...

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

#295

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes wire transfers mysteriously fail for no reason, in particular between US and EU banks. I've had this issue with being paid before, nobody could tell me why the transaction would mysteriously fail.

Agreed, but in this case the OP says that the bank acknowledges receiving the money, and simply won't release it to his account. That means KYC or source-of-income laws are applying (I don't know what country OP is in so I can't say which).

Sorry for not being specific enough, let me give more details about the incident. My bank tell me they can see the transaction but it is not approved so they cant do anything about it and recommend me to contact with the sender's bank. Sender's bank tells the sender that the amount is held by the beneficiary bank and they can not do anything about it either. At some point, sender's bank told the sender that the beneficiary bank released the payment (around 25-30 days ago), but the transaction is still not completed anyhow. Weird thing about this is, the amount is very small (around 1k EUR), and I have received 20-30 payments from the same sender, same bank in the past 4 years. The most troubling part is, I or the sender, can not take any action to fix the issue and the neither bank tells us what the issue is or recommends us an action to fix the issue.

I am not saying this happens all the time, or all SWIFT transactions are flawed by nature, but this occurring even once is enough for me to be in a very stressful situation without any remedy.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, it's digital already. However banks manage the whole system and they can do whatever they want with your money if you are nobody. I have been waiting for 2 and a half months for an international payment via SWIFT, I worked long hours for that money and I needed it urgently. The money left the sender's account 2 and a half months ago. Neither of us has the money in our accounts while the bank tells us to just wai…

Couldn't the transfer from Binance to your bank account take two months as well in principle?

Of course, I guess that can happen if the bank decides so as well, but the transaction from local Binance bank account to my local bank account is not international and not via SWIFT (correct me if I am mistaken), so far those transactions have been always completed instantaneously (under 5-10 minutes) since they are domestic transactions (?).

To be fair, almost all of my international SWIFT transactions, except this one, have been completed in 6-10 business days (it's not so bad and I can live with it, as long as it doesn't take 3 damn months).

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

#298
I know where the $ to cover those withdrawals came from,.

Check out the timing And the large transactions This wallet belongs to Bitfinex

This is bad , looks like Binance needed a bailout to cover withdrawals

https://etherscan.io/token/0xdac17f958d2ee523a2206206994597c...

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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> The world's biggest crypto exchange will freeze all withdrawals of USD Coin while it conducts a "token swap" to boost its holdings of the dollar-pegged cryptocurrency, the crypto group's CEO Changpeng Zhao said Tuesday It's worth noting that USDC is not even a token controlled by Binance. It's controlled and issued by Circle. So effectively, Binance is refusing to honor its commitment to depositors to give them the…

> The only possible reason you want a stable coin, rather than dollars, in the first place is because you're doing something that requires you to route around US financial regulation.

This reeks of US centric privilege. Very similar to "the only people that want privacy are criminals". There are plenty of countries that you can't access UD dollars that would prefer to hold them than their own currency.

Re: Binance freezes withdrawals of stablecoin USDC as investors pull $2B

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If they need to "boost their holdings" in USDC in order for their customers to withdraw these coins, what had they been doing with their customer's deposits ?

Funny, it is an "exchange" that takes a deposit, but doesn't actually purchase the promised cryto holding until a withdraw is made.

Binance delisted USDC in september, since then the only way to "purchase" USDC on Binance has been by requesting and USD withdrawal via USDC.
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