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The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Indictment [pdf]

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Re: The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Indictment [pdf]

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From https://www.cnbc.com/2022/12/13/sam-bankman-fried-denied-bai... : “Bankman-Fried's parents were animated during the proceeding, at times laughing or putting their fingers in their ears, according to Coindesk.” … what in the world.. I guess they really think they are going to somehow get him out of this.. how do they not understand that this type of behavior is not in any way helpful to him?

They must live in ivory towers and don’t understand exactly how bad this is..

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I'm waiting for Sequoia to be put in jail.

It will be a long wait, unfortunately. More likely: Sequoia will be shouting from the rooftops that they too are victims.

They... literally... are? The SEC has charged SBF over exactly that.

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A16Z didn't invest in FTX

No, but they've been all over crypto: https://a16zcrypto.com/

Let's not forget this gem https://archive.nytimes.com/dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01/21/...

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They did, Caroline also made a Tumblr post that said something like, "When I add being feminine to my dating profile should I put it before or after the section on wire fraud?"

I refuse to believe this. No one uses Tumblr.

it works better than twitter

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post #529

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Best years? More like all the years.

He should not go to prison for life. Nobody should ever go to prison for life, for wasting money. Money is literally made up. Sure, opportunity cost is real, but seriously nobody should ever lose their life for money.

DPR is rotting for life, for contracting a hit on an entirely fictional person and mostly conducting a very upstanding market. I never thought that was fair, but US laws are US laws.

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I think that it is a thing for a shockingly large percent of parents. Historically children were the retirement plan (in addition to labor for the family). That type of thinking is fairly common.

> Historically children were the retirement plan They still are. It's just that the retirement plan has been socialized to the level of the nation state. The labor of the young takes care of the old. This is literally true in the case of social security which is funded by taxing current productive labor. This isn't necessarily bad, because it's the way it's always been. But it is something like a multi-generational p…

The last generation will have a lot more to worry about than who will take care of them in retirement.

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Is there going to be any reckoning for the VCs who poured money into this ridiculous business? I don’t see how you respect Sequoia’s judgement after this.

The same reckoning a VC always gets for making a bad call: the money's gone.

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> This isn't necessarily bad, because it's the way it's always been. I'm not sure this sentence make any sense. The same could be said about slavery. Is slavery not necessarily bad because it's the way it's always been?

You're right, that sentence is bad. Maybe I should have said it isn't obviously bad or some new, modern evil that we just invented. It's how human social groups that take care of their non productive elderly have always operated.

The futurology trackers have "breakdown of intergenerational solidarity" as a possibility with no given time frame. It really didn't occur to me how implicated the nation state is in this until you pointed out the fact (in retrospect, glaringly obvious) that this function of family life has been subverted by government.

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The fact that they named the chat group channel for their executives (SBF, Caroline, others) "Wirefraud" is jawdropping.

Tell me they didn't...

SBF denied it but the Guardian picked it up. No idea if it's true.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/dec/13/sam-bankman...

https://archive.ph/fUnp3

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