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Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by NaturalPhallacy »

hjgjhyuhy wrote: post #15

The thing I enjoy about Mate is how long lasting and stable its stimulating effect is. Coffee just gives me a quick spike after which I feel bad. Mate helps me to concentrate on boring stuff for hours.

That's because it's really just the caffeine causing a small adrenaline release. A lot of people don't realize that, I suspect. It's also why it can make you have to take a dump immediately. Caffeine doesn't amp you up, it just causes your body to release a tiny bit of adrenaline which is what amps you up.

I have no clue what Mate does.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by pantalaimon »

LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #69
pastacacioepepe wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some parts of Europe (especially Germany/Austria in my experience) you can find soda drinks such as "Club Mate". I like the taste as it's sweteened but not excessively.

I know that, but don't like it that much. What's acceptable though is Club Mate Granat. That is blended with some pomegrenade juice, and looks red. Recommended. Also still available for €0,89 per 0,5L where I live :-)

I think Club Mate Granat is an atrocity that tastes nothing like Mate.

But when it comes to mixing flavors, I think Mio Mio Ginger Mate is pretty great.

Or Lux Mate with mint - but I’m afraid they closed down.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by archarios »

artur_makly wrote: post #51

I've lived in Argentina since 2006, when I discovered mate.. it changed my whole approach to stable productivity because it would not crash you like coffee. I'm happy to see this study finally. Surprisingly when I asked my doctor here if there were any studies on it, I was shocked to hear "Oh No!" when asked why.. she responded "1. there is no $ for funding it. 2. No one cares here about the clinical health effects,…

I drink coffee daily and don't experience any crash. I do drink water between sips so that may affect my experience. Many blog posts online claim this practice helps to avoid crashing. I like the taste of Yerba Mate but I find it makes me feel weird a lot of the time.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by gen220 »

petre wrote: post #102
penumbral wrote: post #63

Coming from an Argentine family Yerba Mate is great. I'm American but have been drinking it frequently since the time I was 14 or so. I drank tons in college but took a multi-year break a few years down the line due to reflux issues that it made worse. Those are some things to look out for - heartburn, sinusitis, negative changes in mood, tension headaches. I notice that there is a huge difference between Yerba Mate…

I'm a tea drinker (green Chinese types like Zhen Mei are mainly my thing) and occasionaly also consume Yerba Mate. Rather than saturating a high amount of the dried plant with hot water and drinking it with a traditional silver straw like people do in South America, I just prepare a normal infusion like one does with tea, with a metal straining net infuser leaving it for four minutes. It's easier on the stomach this…

I've done the same for years. I think most of the ill effects of mate come to people because they're "overdosing" inadvertently.

If you steep a "tea" quantity of mate, I've found it to produce a remarkably long-lived, smooth, non-jittery sense alertness.

The only times I've ever felt like how coffee or black tea make me feel, is when I put in a 1/4 cup of mate and drink it the traditional way.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by gen220 »

archarios wrote: post #134
artur_makly wrote: post #51

I've lived in Argentina since 2006, when I discovered mate.. it changed my whole approach to stable productivity because it would not crash you like coffee. I'm happy to see this study finally. Surprisingly when I asked my doctor here if there were any studies on it, I was shocked to hear "Oh No!" when asked why.. she responded "1. there is no $ for funding it. 2. No one cares here about the clinical health effects,…

I drink coffee daily and don't experience any crash. I do drink water between sips so that may affect my experience. Many blog posts online claim this practice helps to avoid crashing. I like the taste of Yerba Mate but I find it makes me feel weird a lot of the time.

I started drinking Mate later in life, and definitely recall it sitting weirdly in my stomach at first. You might want to try drinking it in smaller concentrations? i.e. steeping for less time, with a smaller quantity of "tea".

A random theory, but since the chemical profile of Mate is quite different from coffee, it might be your body going through selective withdrawal from coffee that's producing the "weird" effect.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by LargoLasskhyfv »

pantalaimon wrote: post #132
LargoLasskhyfv wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know that, but don't like it that much. What's acceptable though is Club Mate Granat. That is blended with some pomegrenade juice, and looks red. Recommended. Also still available for €0,89 per 0,5L where I live :-)

I think Club Mate Granat is an atrocity that tastes nothing like Mate. But when it comes to mixing flavors, I think Mio Mio Ginger Mate is pretty great. Or Lux Mate with mint - but I’m afraid they closed down.

Mio Mio Ginger Mate was acceptable, but not good. But they also had something Guarana Pomegrenade, which was better. While were at Ginger, ever tried Bundaberg? :-) Lux Mate Mint sounds interesting, but never had it, so far.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by gen220 »

doodlebugging wrote: post #80
contingo wrote: post #26

From the introduction, which starts by trying to give some wider taxonomic context: >The genus Ilex comprises about 450 species growing in the tropical regions of South America and Asia. Ilex trees are located exclusively in South America... The roughly 500-600 species in the genus Ilex are commonly called hollies and include the European Christmas holly, I. aquafolium. The genus overall has a worldwide distribution…

A related species is Yaupon Holly that grows all over the Gulf Coast region from Texas to Florida. That one is Ilex vomitoria and is the only native caffeine producing plant that grows in north America. I make tea from the leaves after roasting them for a few minutes on low heat. You can find Yaupon Tea for sale in quite a few places now after articles about it appeared a few years back. It is a hardy bush that can f…

Do you have a Yaupon brand you can recommend? I tried some in college and found the taste too bitter (like the leaves had been improperly-stored for way too long, kind of like how basil tastes when poorly-dried).

But I'm very into the idea of finding a good Yaupon, insofar as it reduces the carbon footprint of shipping things around the world & such.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by brianwawok »

poxrud wrote: post #113
rodrigodlu wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes: https://aps-repo.bvs.br/aps/a-erva-mate-possui-acao-terapeut... """ Yerba mate consumption has been associated with the incidence of oropharyngeal and esophageal cancer, however, this seems to be mainly related to the habit of some people to drink the drink at very high temperatures. The ideal water temperature is 70 to 80ºC. """ It's in Portuguese unfortunately. Some people drink at 90oC almost the boiling poin…

Do you mean that people drink it at high temps or steep it at high temp? Can you steep it at high temperature but then wait until it cools down to drink it?

It’s the literally burning hot water going in your mouth. Coffee does the same thing. You have to let it cook a bit.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by pmoleri »

serioussecurity wrote: post #124
innagadadavida wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has 27g of sugar per drink. are there any options to not have sugar or sweeteners? I was hoping at least this company will be more health conscious.

Yerba Mate is brewed, like tea. You can buy the herb and brew it yourself, like loose tea. Yerba Mate is not a company, it's a drink with three thousand of years of history. The reason many energy drink companies add so much sugar is that it's extremely bitter. I like mine bitter, and many drink it straight.

Acquired taste, just like coffee or beer. They don't need sugar.
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