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Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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I agree with the under current what chatGPT does well is making a good first draft of a text which is intended to be mostly neutral. It is to communication what calculators are to mathematics.

Calculators are always correct.

I don't think you even really believe that yourself.

https://youtu.be/7LKy3lrkTRA

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

#662

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mmm well how long did GPT take? Say a quarter of that time?

OpenAI started late 2015. I don't know when they started working on GPT, but GPT-2 was early 2019. Nearly 4 years later, still no GPT-2 detector?

No real need for one until now I think.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Calculators are always correct.

I don't think you even really believe that yourself. https://youtu.be/7LKy3lrkTRA

The goal of HN is not “win argument” but curious debate. You know what I meant.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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I don't think you even really believe that yourself. https://youtu.be/7LKy3lrkTRA

The goal of HN is not “win argument” but curious debate. You know what I meant.

What was "curious debate" about your terse and wholly incorrect quip?

For the purposes of my education and socialisation to HN.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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The fact that soon the internet will be so flooded with bots that you'll be floating eternally alone in a sea of imposters unless we create some draconian real person ID system is a tragedy so great it's crazy it has not dawned on people yet. I started out loving the net because of the feelings of connection and partly because of the honesty and discussions stemming from at least pseudo anonymity, both silly stuff an…

I'm hopeful that some pay AI/ML service (probably the next generation of Google search) might crop up to work as an export agent for me and my interests against the AI (or human) powered psyops operation that is sales and marketing. I don't think Google is forever married to advertising. If they could charge everyone $50+/month for Assistant, I think they'd do it.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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While I'm on the fence, and don't disagree with the point, this is an awful example to use. The whole comment is written in a very noticeable Chat GPT "voice", making it very easy to tell it was generated by Chat GPT. It's also not a particularly fun comment.

Yeah OK, next time we'll try again without the reveal, let's see how that will turn out.

I'd be interested to find out.

Despite your scepticism, there are a few things that gave this one away.

Repeating the subject noun rather than changing to "it" after the first use is the biggest one in this example. It sounds very unnatural to keep saying "ChatGPT", especially three sentences in a row, but ChatGPT seems to do it quite often.

Having said that, I'm not confident I could do much better than 50/50 when not primed with the knowledge that people are likely to post generated content right now, plus the context of the conversation.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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The goal of HN is not “win argument” but curious debate. You know what I meant.

What was "curious debate" about your terse and wholly incorrect quip? For the purposes of my education and socialisation to HN.

Previous poster said that GPT is to writing what calculators are to math. That's an interesting point, is this an analogy we can reason with?

My terse response was "no, because calculators are correct all the time whereas GPT is incorrect a lot of time". So, that reasoning can't be used. Need a different one.

So we conclude, no that's not a good analogy.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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What was "curious debate" about your terse and wholly incorrect quip? For the purposes of my education and socialisation to HN.

Previous poster said that GPT is to writing what calculators are to math. That's an interesting point, is this an analogy we can reason with? My terse response was "no, because calculators are correct all the time whereas GPT is incorrect a lot of time". So, that reasoning can't be used. Need a different one. So we conclude, no that's not a good analogy.

So you're ignoring proof that calculators aren't correct all the time(infact given most numbers are irrational calculators are always mostly wrong and imprecise). And stating your incorrect view as fact.

That's what you mean by curious debate? Bizarre!

P.s. this is why it's a good analogy you've learnt something about calculators from thinking about the analogy as well as chatGPT

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