After 20 years the Dwarf Fortress devs have to get used to being millionaires

Post by baobabKoodaa » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 11:41 PM UTC

armchairhacker wrote: post #59

haunter wrote: post #57

I love that they straight up said the game won't get any big discounts in the near (~2 years) future >Q: When is the game going on sale? >Not soon! And not for very much discount! Bay 12 and Kitfox are going to keep working on this for ~30 years, so it doesn’t make sense to follow normal Steam discounting. For example, we might discount 10% in a couple of months, but we also might not! We certainly won’t be discounti…

Same as Factorio, which also never goes on sale. When I know a game discounts 50+% it just makes me put off buying it.

Post by schmorptron » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 11:44 PM UTC

dabeeeenster wrote: post #80

darkteflon wrote: post #79

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That’s awesome. Would you mind sharing which game it was?

I'm not sure if he would be upset with me if I were to publish how small his team was, sorry! Maybe the reasons above will change this.

Post by fnordpiglet » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 11:51 PM UTC

thomaslangston wrote: post #43

theptip wrote: post #27

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$2m in the bank is enough to easily draw $100k/yr from interest, which fits the GP’s “set for life if we make wise choices” IMO. That is way above median income in wealthy countries. Assuming you don’t try to live in SF!

That's using a 5 percent withdrawal rate. A 4 or even 3 percent withdrawal rate is more likely to be sustainable. Those are also rates I see suggested more commonly on retirement planning sites.

Post by gscott » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 11:54 PM UTC

datalopers wrote: post #6

TrevorJ wrote: post #2

They are definitely in 'set for life if we make wise choices' territory. In another month I'm betting they will be in 'set for life even if we make foolish choices' territory. I'm really happy for them. They really stayed true to their passion and I'm happy to see them rewarded for this.

Are they? 300,000 units * $30 = $9M - 30% Steam tax = $6.3M in a single year take out federal taxes (just gonna call it 36% and ignore SFJ/MFJ), leaves them about $2M each. I'm sure they're some sort of a legal entity in WA state and will owe the b&o tax too. They deserve it absolutely but $2M each does not put them in a position of "fuck you" [1]. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdfeXqHFmPI

Post by bombcar » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 11:55 PM UTC

datalopers wrote: post #17

Arrath wrote: post #13

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I also read, though who knows whether the source was at all accurate, that after the Steam cut, Kitfox takes a goodly chunk (north of 50% IIRC) out until their own expenses for development are paid, and then their cut ratchets down to 20% or so.

Oh, I didn't realize they had a publisher involved too. Yeah, this is a nice payday but it's just a start before it's life-changing for these two hackers. Let's see another 300k in sales!