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Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by Aunche »

mrtksn wrote: post #22
philjohn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?

Because China is not a good example to follow. It is a dystopian state with full control of what their citizens have access to. Why would you want to have your government to choose the apps for you?

Enforcing trade agreements isn't the same as censorship. Having said that, this legislation does seem like it's more about censorship than trade.

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Post by schwartzworld »

rayiner wrote: post #100

I don’t understand the bi-partisan dislike of Tik Tok. As far as content goes, it’s pretty wholesome compared to what you see on movies and TV these days. It’s much better at giving kids age appropriate content than other sites. There is also a lot less commercialized stuff. Way better than cartoons that peddle toys and junk.

Something something china bad.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by mnw21cam »

nova22033 wrote: post #115
philjohn wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

US Tech firms products are largely banned in China, closing off a market of 1bn+ - why should Chinese firms have unfettered access to the US?

China banning US social media is bad for Chinese citizens. US banning any social media is bad for US citizens. TBH, I'm more worried about the rights of US citizens.

> US banning any social media is bad for US citizens

[Citation needed]

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by AlexandrB »

dougmwne wrote: post #119

Why not? China doesn’t allow our social media. Why should we allow theirs? We can easily copy the best parts of the platform and let our companies take their users. Plus, social media can be used for mass political manipulation, and what justifies letting them hold that power over our population? It’s good for our companies, it’s good for our people, and it takes away a dangerous tool from a country that is more and…

Think about who is being restricted here, because it's not just TikTok. Why are you ok with the government dictating which apps you can and cannot install?

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by chaostheory »

mrtksn wrote: post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

We already had a partitioned internet for years now

Imo this legislation makes sense because our companies are more or less banned from entering China’s domestic market. Why should we allow their tech companies in when they’ve banned ours

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Post by three_seagrass »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #204
spamizbad wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

SV failed to build social media products that appeal to Gen-Z so this is the "plan B". The only reason why TikTok is getting banned is because its popular. And the only reason why its popular is because US-based entrepreneurs seem to struggle building products that connect with users under the age of 30. The irony is there was a product, Vine, that filled this niche but it was ultimately killed by Facebook (who promo…

No, it’s because it’s from China which bans US tech platforms. If this came from the EU or SK there would be no discussion on this in Congress.

China doesn't ban US tech that obeys the CCP's surveillance laws, like Apple does. This targeting of tiktok is pretty specific by US government, because it singles out a company rather than act as a law.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by weinzierl »

time_to_smile wrote: post #185
jzmorganchase wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is not true. The recent 60 minutes story specifically says the type of content is completely different because it is heavily moderated in China which is the total opposite of what we see in the US or elsewhere outside of China. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j0xzuh-6rY&ab_channel=60Min...

I'm consistently surprised that many people in the tech community treat China as some unknowable country that we only get a few snippets of insight in from our media. If you work in tech, you most certainly have a few Chinese citizens as coworkers and colleagues. Talk to them about what life is like if you're curious, don't rely on "60 minutes". TikTok in China may be moderated but only to keep anything controversial…

Do you know if it is possible to access Douyin outside of China? I think it would be an interesting experience to see it first-hand and also I guess the language barrier would no be a huge issue if the content is similar to TikTok.

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by seydor »

mrtksn wrote: post #7

Why not regulate how the data is used or stored, like the EU does, but ban? I'm really hoping this doesn't become a reality because if it does, we will end up with partitioned internet and stagnation. People often forget that the US companies are foreign entity for most of the worlds population and with the WikiLeaks revelations we know for a fact that the US government has access to the data of American tech compani…

Because the americans are smarter with eliminating competitors

Huawei - ban

TikTok - ban

EVs - subsidize tesla

Re: Bipartisan Legislation to Ban TikTok

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Post by helen___keller »

I won’t cry if TikTok disappears forever but you’re deluding yourself if you think TikTok is anything more than an iteration on a whole ecosystem of addictive digital content apps, that just happens to be owned by a Chinese company

Nothing wrong with playing protectionist games and fighting to remain the home of the worlds most influential tech companies, but let’s be honest that this is what it is. We’re not doing this to protect the children.

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Post by zip1234 »

AlexandrB wrote: post #198
richwater wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta at least answers to the United States. Congress could easily introduce data privacy legislation. Fuck TikTok.

TikTok also answers to the United States if it wants to continue operating here. If Congress passed a privacy bill, TikTok would have to comply like all other social media companies.

Most likely they will comply like Huawei complies--say they are complying but do the opposite.
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