The United States of America vs. Samuel Bankman-Fried Indictment [pdf]

Post by ksaxena » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:18 PM UTC

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> How anyone could look at this man's behavior over the last few weeks and not think he was on a fast track to a federal penitentiary is beyond me Seeing how thoroughly he convinced people that he had political influence, and given his general lack of awareness, I’m willing to give merit to his believing he was immune. Similar to how people outside securities think insider trading is more rampant than it is, insider…

Do we have some examples of people who have amassed great real or perceived fortunes (and power) that have not become drunk on it? Musk on stage with Chapelle last night, Elizabeth Holmes, or SBF’s whole schtick, who are the ones who have kept their feet on the ground? What are the attributes of these others who don’t lose themselves in fawning attention and (sometimes short-lived) mountains of capital?

Post by thereddaikon » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:19 PM UTC

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So 4 counts on wire fraud and then also commodities fraud, securities fraud, money laundering and campaign finance laws. For the moment, if we set aside whether these will be proven, how bad does a stack of charges like this look for him if they are proven?

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Post by xivzgrev » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:19 PM UTC

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I think this is a bit far fetched. He was the scion of famous law professors. He grew up around the law. To think he didn’t understand what the general public does about the law takes a special kind of … assumption that directly contradicts the obvious facts. He very likely knows more about the law than anyone on here. How could he not?

My father sold cars most of his adult life, and certainly throughout all the time we shared together until his death. He was very good at it. And yet I know fuck all about selling cars or cars in general. Nada. Nothing. I didn't even learn to drive until I was in my thirties. "X's parents are in profession Y" hardly means anything.

Post by misnome » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:20 PM UTC

bredren wrote: post #135

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #56

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> How anyone could look at this man's behavior over the last few weeks and not think he was on a fast track to a federal penitentiary is beyond me Seeing how thoroughly he convinced people that he had political influence, and given his general lack of awareness, I’m willing to give merit to his believing he was immune. Similar to how people outside securities think insider trading is more rampant than it is, insider…

Do we have some examples of people who have amassed great real or perceived fortunes (and power) that have not become drunk on it? Musk on stage with Chapelle last night, Elizabeth Holmes, or SBF’s whole schtick, who are the ones who have kept their feet on the ground? What are the attributes of these others who don’t lose themselves in fawning attention and (sometimes short-lived) mountains of capital?

Post by jbverschoor » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 5:21 PM UTC

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Are you implying if I buy ads to promote your candidacy using illegal funds that the election you won is illegitimate? How would we go about enforcing that?