New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
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Re: New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
#2actually discussed here, but it didn't gain a lot of points, so not much visibility for such big news
Re: New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
#3How generous of the grown ups to ban things for other people but not yourself. Like it's objectively a good thing but it seems so silly and immature to me. How good could society be by now if we could get every generation to pass restrictions on the vices of the next generation only, I suppose.
Edit: I know talking about down voting is discouraged, but since I'm being downvoted, why not go further? Alcohol is also objectively bad, why not implement this for alchohol? You would presumably even avoid all the rum running and speak easys and mass organized crime you had with the US doing the first time around if everyone who already enjoyed it got to keep doing it. Would you also find this law but for alcohol reasonable?
Re: New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
#4How unfortunate, nicotine is a highly effective nootropic
Re: New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
#5How generous of the grown ups to ban things for other people but not yourself. Like it's objectively a good thing but it seems so silly and immature to me. How good could society be by now if we could get every generation to pass restrictions on the vices of the next generation only, I suppose. Edit: I know talking about down voting is discouraged, but since I'm being downvoted, why not go further? Alcohol is also ob…
I can't upvote this enough. This is a mind blowing precedent for New Zealand, and scarily, every country. I can't imagine how Boomers in the USA could be drooling at this concept.
Re: New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
#6How generous of the grown ups to ban things for other people but not yourself. Like it's objectively a good thing but it seems so silly and immature to me. How good could society be by now if we could get every generation to pass restrictions on the vices of the next generation only, I suppose. Edit: I know talking about down voting is discouraged, but since I'm being downvoted, why not go further? Alcohol is also ob…
This is a totally reasonable point.
Interestingly, so is its inversion: "How thoughtful of the grown ups to prevent harm to other people, even knowing it won't save themselves."
Re: New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
#7How unfortunate, nicotine is a highly effective nootropic
Too bad smoking cigarettes gives you way more than the nicotine you so crave.
Re: New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
#8How unfortunate, nicotine is a highly effective nootropic
Maybe there are ways to intake nicotine that are not as harmful as cigarettes or maybe there are better nootropics out there
Re: New Zealand passes legislation banning cigarettes for future generations
#9> New Zealand's smoking rate is already at historic lows, with just 8% of adults smoking daily according to government statistic released in November - down from 9.4% last year.
if this was accomplished without prohibitions, how many negative consequences (black markets, organized crime, smuggling, adulterated cigarettes) is NZ willing to tolerate to get to zero? One would think that at some point, you get down to a hard core that will never stop.
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#10Why do they think this won't increase the allure of cigarettes in general? Feels like prohibition has always been a questionable idea, regardless of what its target is, and it has pretty much never worked as expected.
It's especially awkward given that people's interest in tobacco has already fallen to new lows without it (the article suggests only 8% of the adult population smokes now), so it feels like it could be completely counterproductive, while doing nothing could have caused interest to crash even more.