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Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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Re: Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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Over the past 7 years using the different sites I've turned down 20 projects that I've been asked to bid on, and have only taken one when I was really in dire straits. You could probably make more on odesk than at mcdonalds, but you'll make 5-8x as much by building up a network on linkedin, and by posting your resume to craigslist once per week. I set my contracting rate on a sliding scale from $250/hour down to $125/hour based on commitment, project, and how much I like the guy I'm talking with. I manage to bill out 750-1250 hours per year depending on how much I care to work versus how much I desire to travel. I couldn't fathom managing to bill out at more than $35/hour on oDesk, and even then I would be considered expensive.

oDesk/elance/etc is where cheapskates who don't know what they want or how to ask for it go to get what they pay for from guys in India and Romania who don't know how to accomplish the work they're being paid to do.

Re: Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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If you're smart enough to ask this question, why are you thinking of ways to shoehorn a business into oDesk? It's a seller's market for dev talent in 2011 and probably for all of 2012. The ability to solve business problems using software development skills is not a commodity. It isn't sold by bidding prices down. No, the opposite of that. This is one of those places where a reasonable amount of extra effort yields a…

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Re: Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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Over the past 7 years using the different sites I've turned down 20 projects that I've been asked to bid on, and have only taken one when I was really in dire straits. You could probably make more on odesk than at mcdonalds, but you'll make 5-8x as much by building up a network on linkedin, and by posting your resume to craigslist once per week. I set my contracting rate on a sliding scale from $250/hour down to $125…

What do you actually do, for $250 an hour?

Re: Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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If you're smart enough to ask this question, why are you thinking of ways to shoehorn a business into oDesk? It's a seller's market for dev talent in 2011 and probably for all of 2012. The ability to solve business problems using software development skills is not a commodity. It isn't sold by bidding prices down. No, the opposite of that. This is one of those places where a reasonable amount of extra effort yields a…

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Re: Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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If you're smart enough to ask this question, why are you thinking of ways to shoehorn a business into oDesk? It's a seller's market for dev talent in 2011 and probably for all of 2012. The ability to solve business problems using software development skills is not a commodity. It isn't sold by bidding prices down. No, the opposite of that. This is one of those places where a reasonable amount of extra effort yields a…

I am doing my research. I am not that familiar with oDesk, and presently looking into switching to freelance development. A question I posted on HN (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3394265) lead to this, very informative, discussion

Re: Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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Here's a link to the responses I gave last couple times this came up: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2619439 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1195524 Short answer: Yes. Just be sure to differentiate on quality rather than price. Your fellow oDeskers are racing to the bottom on price. Let them. Casually walk to the top on quality and you'll find yourself all alone with a nice stack of work from good clients.

Thanks, good points

Re: Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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If you're smart enough to ask this question, why are you thinking of ways to shoehorn a business into oDesk? It's a seller's market for dev talent in 2011 and probably for all of 2012. The ability to solve business problems using software development skills is not a commodity. It isn't sold by bidding prices down. No, the opposite of that. This is one of those places where a reasonable amount of extra effort yields a…

I am doing my research. I am not that familiar with oDesk, and presently looking into switching to freelance development. A question I posted on HN ( http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3394265 ) lead to this, very informative, discussion

The advice you got there was reasonable: use oDesk once or twice to see if you like doing transactional development work (ie, series of unrelated projects under tight time pressure) but treat oDesk as an apprenticeship, and as soon as you feel like you're going to stick with consultative development, get the f!%k off oDesk.

Re: Ask HN: is it possible to earn a living US wage at oDesk?

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I've used oDesk to hire several contractors. Currently, I have a Chinese C++ developer working for me who is bringing in close to $5k per month from my project alone.

I know I could get by on $60k per year but it really depends on what constitutes a 'living wage.' :)

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