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Also: "Your jumping to defend YC companies make me wonder if you're not just a fan boy. Maybe come down form your high horse thinking that you need to defend these YC companies breaking the law?" See where I took it from & how bad it looks?
I found an example on today's front page (Rutter): https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/rutter/7b222f5f-cd46-4592-9cf8-6cd1... No salary range posted, job is in NYC.
Hey sorry about that this is our job posting - we duplicated a another one and missed adding that information, thanks for catching that! We added in the salary range. Feel free to email us if you have any other questions!
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The user in question sells alt data. If they’re remotely competent at doing so, they have zero need to work at a startup much less a YC-funded one.
What's alt data? I've never heard that term before.
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Hey sorry about that this is our job posting - we duplicated a another one and missed adding that information, thanks for catching that! We added in the salary range. Feel free to email us if you have any other questions!
Why not add it by default?
IIUC, it's generally held that in a price negotiation, the first party that posts a number is at a disadvantage. Starting salary is one kind of price negotiation. So I can understand why employers would be reluctant to do that.
Probably because HN is not a law enforcement agency for New York City. The law has some exceptions, perhaps those apply. Why not contact the company and politely ask for the salary range?
I agree with the sentiment but maybe you can see this post as them doing that very thing but aimed at YC. While I agree normal HN posts don’t need to be policed, the ads for hiring at YC companies aren’t normal posts.
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Maybe HN could require salary range in order to be promoted here (regardless of location or laws)?
You mean do the ethical thing, not just the legal thing?
Can you clarify what you mean by "ethical" in this case? It's not obvious to me which ethic / whose interests deserve priority in a case like this.
This is a core part of their offering, it's not just user generated content, it's YC companies posting on YC's job board.
I found an example on today's front page (Rutter): https://jobs.ashbyhq.com/rutter/7b222f5f-cd46-4592-9cf8-6cd1... No salary range posted, job is in NYC.
Hey sorry about that this is our job posting - we duplicated a another one and missed adding that information, thanks for catching that! We added in the salary range. Feel free to email us if you have any other questions!
Probably because HN is not a law enforcement agency for New York City. The law has some exceptions, perhaps those apply. Why not contact the company and politely ask for the salary range?
>Probably because HN is not a law enforcement agency for New York City. Okay? But this law exists in other places too. >Why not contact the company and politely ask for the salary range? Because its not their responsibility to make sure some random corp is following the law? They're just getting burned by the effect.
HN does not enforce NYC laws. Nor does it enforce Colorado laws, or any laws regarding jobs including salary ranges. Whether YC/HN have an ethical responsibility or not comes down to one's ethical position. Laws do not necessarily equal ethics.
Personally I would ignore job postings that leave out crucial information, including salary ranges. If we all did that (i.e. behaved according to our professed ethics) companies would post salary ranges just to get applicants. Compelling companies to post salary ranges by law may have some underlying logic I agree with, I don't know for sure. Compelling HN or any other public forum to enforce those laws (which vary and change by jurisdiction, with numerous exceptions) seems a stretch to me -- I would rather see the job posts and decide which to ignore and which to respond to rather than have HN try to enforce the patchwork of local laws by hiding postings. Once you get into the moderation business you have to invest a lot of effort in that and still you will piss off a lot of people.