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Note that the SEC's is merely a civil action. The federal criminal indictment hasn't been unsealed yet (but should be soon, today [0]). [0] https://apnews.com/article/technology-business-bahamas-unite... ( "We expect to move to unseal the indictment in the morning and will have more to say at that time" )
The SEC can only bring civil action, for those wondering why it's a civil action.
It's sort of curious that this SEC action is to protect the venture capital investors like Sequoia who invested in FTX shares directly. If I were a retail investor who lost my savings in FTX, I might be feeling upset that the government is rushing to action in defense of billion-dollar funds whose own due diligence failed massively, while seemingly nothing is being done to help those who invested in crypto based on F…
The SEC is authorized to pursue criminal cases for securities fraud (among many other things). Furthermore, they can refer criminal cases to the Dept of Justice, which has almost certainly happened.
To the extent that FTX defrauded consumers, these will be reflected in civil and criminal cases.
To my knowledge, the SEC does not protect deposits in the event of bankruptcy. Most individuals with assets on deposit at FTX are unsecured creditors.
It's sort of curious that this SEC action is to protect the venture capital investors like Sequoia who invested in FTX shares directly. If I were a retail investor who lost my savings in FTX, I might be feeling upset that the government is rushing to action in defense of billion-dollar funds whose own due diligence failed massively, while seemingly nothing is being done to help those who invested in crypto based on F…
This may seem unfair but this is their best shot at securing a conviction. Elizbeth Holmes was convicted for defrauding investors, not users of Theranos devices.
Either way, the money is likely gone. Nobody is being protected.
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Everyone who bought and held on to their bitcoins in their wallet instead of storing the coins with a custodian (exchange or otherwise) is still in full possession of said coins. not your keys, not your coins as the saying goes. "Not your keys, not your coins" is probably the single largest blocker to crypto adoption, in my opinion. With every other financial asset, custodial accounts just work . Putting a hundred do…
I'll just quote part of what I said a month ago :) > And given what's leaked from their balance sheet, I don't see how people avoid jail time. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33608691 I'll also add that SBF going on tour was the stupidest thing he could have done. Every time he spoke, he was giving the government more evidence. Hubris has often been the downfall of the rich and powerful throughout history. What'…
>like Musk and SBF I‘m sorry, but what ? Just to give some perspective that I don’t think HN really gets: most of my friends have increased their twitter usage. If you aren’t aware, whatever the team did there a few days ago really has appeared to cut bots down to almost 0. SBF is an [alleged] criminal who has [allegedly] defrauded people of billions of dollars, and will likely be spending a substantial amount of tim…
It's sort of curious that this SEC action is to protect the venture capital investors like Sequoia who invested in FTX shares directly. If I were a retail investor who lost my savings in FTX, I might be feeling upset that the government is rushing to action in defense of billion-dollar funds whose own due diligence failed massively, while seemingly nothing is being done to help those who invested in crypto based on F…
Frankly, it seems to me that VCs should be liable for money FTX owes its customers. These are professional investors who didn't insist on very basic things, such as proper financial sheets from a finance company. Frankly, that's gross negligence. Professional investors should have legal responsibility to do at least some due diligence. In addition, they're becoming owners of a company. As owners, why shouldn't they b…
It's sort of curious that this SEC action is to protect the venture capital investors like Sequoia who invested in FTX shares directly. If I were a retail investor who lost my savings in FTX, I might be feeling upset that the government is rushing to action in defense of billion-dollar funds whose own due diligence failed massively, while seemingly nothing is being done to help those who invested in crypto based on F…
Whoa, are you trying to tell me all the big fish hyping up the Regulators Are Evil Economy get near-total legal protection of a regulated market, but all the little people who got taken in by it are going to get screwed? An incredible and unforeseeable development! Surely there will be more charges over time but the end result isn’t going to change much. The wealthy people who’ve been boosting all of this will take t…
a16z and Sequoia deserve their losses. They both went all-in on this crypto bullshit in their latest funds and convinced otherwise healthy companies to pivot into it also. Their returns for these latest funds will be decimated and I couldn't be happier.
a16z didnt invest in FTX did it ? ( i agree with your thesis nonetheless)
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Whoa, are you trying to tell me all the big fish hyping up the Regulators Are Evil Economy get near-total legal protection of a regulated market, but all the little people who got taken in by it are going to get screwed? An incredible and unforeseeable development! Surely there will be more charges over time but the end result isn’t going to change much. The wealthy people who’ve been boosting all of this will take t…
I always find it interesting how in our implementation of capitalism here in the US, wealth is able to insulate and protect itself from many of the very measures capitalism is supposed to peel away and counter (in the interest of society at large). It's almost like it there are fundamental inherent flaws that need to be fixed to continue on and we can't keep treating things like business is usual if we want to enable…
It's sort of curious that this SEC action is to protect the venture capital investors like Sequoia who invested in FTX shares directly. If I were a retail investor who lost my savings in FTX, I might be feeling upset that the government is rushing to action in defense of billion-dollar funds whose own due diligence failed massively, while seemingly nothing is being done to help those who invested in crypto based on F…