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Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by MrDresden » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 1:52 PM UTC

augusto-moura wrote: post #36

MrDresden wrote: post #34

Yerba Mate got me through university. It was such integral part of that time of my life that even now more than a decade later I still meet people who remember me as the strange tea pipe guy (I used a traditional gourd and metal bombilla). However I stopped drinking it once it got known to me that it might have cancer causing properties. Scanning the article I can see there have been direct connections made via PAH c…

There is a Yerba Mate cold brew called Tereré[1], is very common in some countries of South America. Even more than the hot version in some places. I myself had it many times, sometimes mixed with lime juice, and even mixed with vodka [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terer%C3%A9

Thank you for the suggestion, but I live on a small island in the North Atlantic where availability of goods is not particularly high.

I can get the Yerba Mate leaf, but the cold brew I would need to make my self.

I was rather trying to see if there was any literature out there on if cold brewing limits or eliminates the PAH extraction.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by nequo » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 1:55 PM UTC

jacobrussell wrote: post #39

MrDresden wrote: post #34

Yerba Mate got me through university. It was such integral part of that time of my life that even now more than a decade later I still meet people who remember me as the strange tea pipe guy (I used a traditional gourd and metal bombilla). However I stopped drinking it once it got known to me that it might have cancer causing properties. Scanning the article I can see there have been direct connections made via PAH c…

I've heard Andrew Huberman [0] often say the ill effects come from the smoked variety [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_D._Huberman [1] https://twitter.com/hubermanlab/status/1500601677904113664?s...

Do you know what his source is? He also recommends taking his preferred brand of dietary supplements which gives me pause about him.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by MrDresden » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 1:55 PM UTC

jacobrussell wrote: post #39

MrDresden wrote: post #34

Yerba Mate got me through university. It was such integral part of that time of my life that even now more than a decade later I still meet people who remember me as the strange tea pipe guy (I used a traditional gourd and metal bombilla). However I stopped drinking it once it got known to me that it might have cancer causing properties. Scanning the article I can see there have been direct connections made via PAH c…

I've heard Andrew Huberman [0] often say the ill effects come from the smoked variety [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_D._Huberman [1] https://twitter.com/hubermanlab/status/1500601677904113664?s...

Interesting, thank you for the link.

I'm currently working my way through his podcast back catalogue, and am very much liking the content and his way of delivering it.

Must say I have never heard about smoked yerba mate though.

I wonder if that is something akin to how coffee is roasted?

edit: turns out the smoking is part of the common processing done to dry the leaves. I guess finding a supplier that dries via other methods would then be preferable.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by adamgordonbell » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 1:58 PM UTC

31337Logic wrote: post #33

wslh wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dentist feedback: yerba mate pigmentation could be clean with a typical prophylactic treatment.

For the non-dentists here, could you obese provide an example of a "typical prophylactic treatment"?

It means getting your teeth cleaned professionally

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by bequanna » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 1:59 PM UTC

MrDresden wrote: post #34

Yerba Mate got me through university. It was such integral part of that time of my life that even now more than a decade later I still meet people who remember me as the strange tea pipe guy (I used a traditional gourd and metal bombilla). However I stopped drinking it once it got known to me that it might have cancer causing properties. Scanning the article I can see there have been direct connections made via PAH c…

I’m a coffee -> mate convert but wasn’t aware of the PAH cancer risk.

It seems that the risk is only present when drinking mate at high temperatures: https://www.verywellhealth.com/yerba-mate-and-cancer-5082076

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by artur_makly » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 1:59 PM UTC

nbk_2000 wrote: post #13

wincy wrote: post #2

Is there any Yerba Mate you can buy that doesn’t taste horrible though? I consider myself pretty adventurous, but I bought some the other day and was shocked at how such a gross beverage has become popular so quickly.

Depends upon which flavor you find objectionable. If you don't like the taste of very strong green tea, then yerba mate may not be for you. However there are several other factors that can lead to yerba mate tasting bad. First is the quality and freshness of the yerba. It should be 6 months or less since it was packaged (check date stamps). It should be made with 80-85* C water (too hot, and it will be super bitter).…

1. add some raw sugar ( 1 teaspoon per gourd ) 2. try the smoked 'Barbacua' flavor https://www.amazon.com/MERCED-Barbacua-Cosecha-Limitada-500g... it rocked my world.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by carpenecopinum » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 2:00 PM UTC

lloydatkinson wrote: post #38

I bought a couple of nice bags of what I believed to just be normal herbal tea. Having never heard of this "yerba mate" thing I thought it was just the brand. Once I looked closer at the bags it had a whole load of instructions like "use the pipe" and "don't stir as it blocks the pipe" which was just bizarre. Since when is a pipe or straw needed for tea? I tried to make a normal herbal tea with it but it tasted disgu…

I brew it just like any regular herbal tea and I'm pretty happy with it. The whole ritual with the pipe and gourd is a bonus, but never required.

If you dislike the more bitter flavors about it, try steeping it at a lower temperature (like 70-80C) and only for a short duration (2 or 3 minutes). That should make it a lot more bearable to you. You can also get packages that have less or no stems or powder, which both add to the bitterness.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by parasubvert » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 2:01 PM UTC

31337Logic wrote: post #33

wslh wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dentist feedback: yerba mate pigmentation could be clean with a typical prophylactic treatment.

For the non-dentists here, could you obese provide an example of a "typical prophylactic treatment"?

The professional teeth cleaning most folks with insurance can get 2-4 times annually with a dental hygenist - eg. Scaling and polishing.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by ahmadnoid » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 2:03 PM UTC

roldie wrote: post #35

If anyone is like me and finds yerba mate too strong or too bitter, I highly recommend guayusa. It's from the same genus so it's a caffeinated holly plant (ilex guayusa) too, but it has a more pleasant, slightly sweet taste. Anecdotally, I find guayusa gives an energy boost on par with coffee, but sustained for much longer, and with gentler slopes (I.e no crash)

The first 2/3 ones are bitter by nature. Then starting the 3rd or the 4th one (you just add water on top, don't change the leaves) it gets better.

Re: Yerba Mate – A Long but Current History (2021)

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Post by ahmadnoid » Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 2:04 PM UTC

Fun fact: Yerba Mate is widely used in Syria and Lebanon due to trade between Latin America and the Levant. I grew up drinking Yerba Mate Tea almost every day.