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Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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I agree. ChatGPT has made me realise the gulf between “short form essay” school writing and the professionals. Here’s an example article that begins with the cliched GPT-generated intro, and then switches up into crafted prose: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2022/12/chatg...

I agree with the under current what chatGPT does well is making a good first draft of a text which is intended to be mostly neutral. It is to communication what calculators are to mathematics.

Calculators are always correct.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

#642

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You can require address as part of credit card validation.

So only people with credit cards are allowed to use the forum? That shuts out a lot of people, especially in places where credit cards aren't used.

You’re right that credit cards are not a universal MOP (method of payment). Other options include debit cards, or systems like iDEAL, PayPal, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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If I can’t determine your comment is by a bot, does it make a difference? You are just a random name on the internet.

I mean, I’d certainly prefer to be engaged in conversation with actual humans, who have actual experience and motivation. If I want to talk to the latest iteration of the gpt-parrot-robot, I’ll go to the gpt site and talk to it there.

ChatGPT has the potential to make online discussions more engaging and dynamic. For example, by generating additional discussion prompts or questions to keep the conversation moving.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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They're already banned—HN has never allowed bots or generated comments. If we have to, we'll add that explicitly to https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html , but I'd say it already follows from the rules that are in there. We don't want canned responses from humans either! Edit: It's a bit hard to point to past explanations since the word "bots" appears in many contexts, but I did find these: https://news.yc…

Simple comments can be good and fruitful. Simple comments can be created by a bot. Simple ≠ Lazy. (Not a bot)

I agree. Simple does not always mean lazy. Simple comments can be clear and concise, facilitating understanding for others. Also, simple comments can be easier to respond to and can help keep the conversation moving.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Agreed. I chatted with it about the Chinese remainder theorem today and it gave me an example that didn't work and then insisted that 30 is not divisible by 2 when I questioned it. This was simple enough to spot but I was halfway through the example by the time I realized I couldn't trust it at all. Its confidence is annoying.

It told me the longest known prime number ended with a 2. Definitely not accurate when it comes to math.

ChatGPT is not a calculator, it's a language model.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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The problem with ChatGPT is that it often reads authoritative. But is often just flat out wrong. I asked it a few questions for which I consider myself a subject matter expert and the answers were laughably wrong.

> The problem with ChatGPT is that it often reads authoritative. But is often just flat out wrong. That sounds pretty damn human to me.

yeah, tough to distinguish human BS, from an incorrect ChatGPT.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

#647

This debate reminds me a lot of early-Quora moderation discussions over anonymous users. People wanted to mass-ban any answers from "anonymous" because they weren't from "real people". I argued that, in a public forum, questions/answers should be judged on their content, rather than "who" wrote them. People disagreed. Anonymous functionality on Quora has since been gutted. AI-generated content seems similar. If a com…

Answer: Because AI-generated content is (frequently) lower quality while maintaining the appearance of high quality.

It is not true that AI-generated content is lower quality that it appears. Training on large amounts of high quality data will result in generated text that is indistinguishable from human writing.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

#648

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So only people with credit cards are allowed to use the forum? That shuts out a lot of people, especially in places where credit cards aren't used.

You’re right that credit cards are not a universal MOP (method of payment). Other options include debit cards, or systems like iDEAL, PayPal, etc.

Right, and those completely vary from country to country. Trying to get one website to support the common authenticated payment systems worldwide is basically impossible unless that website is Google.com.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

#649

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Seriously, have people here not used Nextdoor? Local communities are absolutely full of toxicity.

Have you considered moving? It very much depends on where you live. Sorry you live in such a toxic neighborhood. Other places are quaint and charming and have posts with cat photography and local honey bee honey sales and baby goats when it's that time of year. Other places get posts complaining about "those people" (for all sorts of different definitions of "those people", and each time you get to place a game of "i…

>Have you considered moving? >Living vicariously through my very rural friend's nextdoor is way better than being on my own urban neighborhoods'.

It sounds like you're the one who needs to consider moving.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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post #24

The fact that soon the internet will be so flooded with bots that you'll be floating eternally alone in a sea of imposters unless we create some draconian real person ID system is a tragedy so great it's crazy it has not dawned on people yet. I started out loving the net because of the feelings of connection and partly because of the honesty and discussions stemming from at least pseudo anonymity, both silly stuff an…

My hopes are on decentralized identity systems via web5 and some kind of PGP-like web-of-trust system.

https://developer.tbd.website/projects/web5/

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