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What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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I love thought experiments like these, One would have to think where could ancient dinosaur DNA survive? Antarctica has been covered by ice for 5 million years, that is still 60 million years too young. Maybe there are a few bugs that have dino dna that is better preserved than the stuff that has been exposed to sunlight and elements the past 5 million years. And even if there is viable dna you would have to drill do…

Co2 levels were 5x or 10x higher back then as well, so large forest fires weren’t likely.

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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The dinosaurs lived in an incomprehensibly different world. From the food and nutrition to the very air they were breathing which we only have vague ideas about. That means the first several generations at the very least would suffer and die from various nutrition, toxicity and environment issues. Even after all that got figured out the dinosaurs would likely have be confined to some small controlled environment righ…

Life.. uh.. finds a way

It has. They're called birds.

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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If you bring them back, it's only a matter of time before they are in the ecosystem. Maybe we contain it for a decade, a century at most but it's going to happen. It's basically the plot of the entire movie series.

I think that's unrealistic - they either eat all their food (if there is even a climate they can survive in) or they get caught. Though this won't apply to small species as much. But the small dynos won't necessarily ruin the ecosystem as they won't be the apex predator. Not like a T-Rex is going to run around without being found, unless the host country collapses and no one cares. But it will just go extinct again,…

> the small dynos won't necessarily ruin the ecosystem as they won't be the apex predator

Ask an aussie how much damage something as innocuous as a rabbit or a frog can do when in an ecosystem they weren't meant for.

> unless the host country collapses and no one cares.

Matter of time. Human life timescale too, not evolutionary timescales

> it will just go extinct again, after causing some damage.

Sounds real fun, I totally want that to happen /s

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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As far as I understand, keeping such creatures alive would require facilities with enriched oxygen. If the large ones escaped, they would suffocate. "...large dinosaurs really required to be living in an oxygen tent. An atmosphere in the neighborhood of 35 percent oxygen would be considerably more compatible with large dinosaurs than one in the neighborhood of 28." Volcanic activity in the Cretaceous enabled these hi…

Oxygen only one part and for all we know there were other trace gasses in the air they required that we don't even know about. There are all kinds of animals today we cannot keep alive in captivity because they require some sort of unknown sequence of environmental triggers to activate or deactivate various processes in their body. For instance cheetahs are nearly impossible to breed in captivity because their mating…

We just need to create a cheetah racing league. Problem solved.

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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I remember in the 90s, when they cloned Polly (or Molly? I don’t remember), people predicted crazy future where we keep cloning animals and one day maybe humans. I don’t hear much about cloning recently. What happened?

Apparently it's become so commonplace among pets that my dog's veterinary insurance policy specifically has an exclusion saying that our pet insurance does not cover cloning. I just googled "Dog Cloning" and there were a bunch of results offering the service.

Oh wow that really is a thing!

Why be sad for your dog’s death when you can just clone him.

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