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Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by fmajid »

unmole wrote: post #123
fmajid wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Information had an interview of the founders back when it was called Musical.ly. When asked why the service was not available in China itself, they responded "Oh no, Chinese kids must study".

That makes no sense. Musical.ly most definitely was available in China.

The article is from 2016:

https://www.theinformation.com/articles/chinese-startups-to-...

Musical.ly

Co-Founders and Co-CEOs: Alex Zhu and Louis Yang

Money raised/valuation: Approximately $100 million in total/valuation unknown

Investors: Greylock Partners, GGV Capital, Qiming Venture Partners

Why they made the list:

Most people using Musical.ly—many are American teens—don’t even know the app is built in China. The app allows users to create 15-second music videos of themselves lip syncing and dancing to pop songs. Musical.ly now has 85 million users worldwide, with 10 million daily active users, and has been consistently in the top ranks for photo and video apps in the U.S. and Europe. Greylock partner Josh Elman, a Musical.ly investor, called it “the next phenomenon in the media industry since Snapchat.”

Musical.ly stands out as the first Chinese company that only targets customers who don’t live in China. The app does not even have a Chinese-language version. Over half of its users—called “musers”—are in the U.S., with another 35% from Europe, according to co-founder Alex Zhu, who is from China but has worked in Silicon Valley.

Musical.ly is trying what Mr. Zhu calls “user-generated ads.” Last month, the company started an advertising campaign for Coca-Cola, where users film their own Coke-related videos. It is also experimenting with virtual gifts on its new product, the live stream app Live.ly. “Our vision for Musical.ly is to make it a YouTube on mobile,” Mr. Zhu said. The Shanghai-based company has no immediate plans to enter the Chinese market. Mr. Zhu points out that teens in China are usually too busy with academic work to have time to generate content.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by GauntletWizard »

podviaznikov wrote: post #170
GauntletWizard wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both can be true; Russia is a big place that's sort of an amalgam itself.

Parent comment is mostly true to russian people. They assume if the other people know russian language and understand their culture it means everything else is the same. But lots of nations in that region in addition to understanding russian language and culture have their own. A and that is why it can never be said that we are the same people. At a minimum such statements and observations come as the result of ignor…

I can't fault you for taking it as hostility and ignorance, considering the present circumstances, but it doesn't have to be that way.

The United States is a nation of nations, and while the same ignorance of local history is broadly true, there can be brotherhood despite that. I'll admit, though, that the US is showing some fraying of those bonds.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by jdmoreira »

Oh wow... Perestroika does bring early memories. I must have been 6 or so? Living in Portugal, playing on my father's 286. Owned my own ZX Spectrum +2A at the time as well but was already graduating from it by this time it seems.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by my_city »

Bondi_Blue wrote: post #131
asveikau wrote: post #2

This website gives strong Russian propaganda vibes. Apparently it is owned by the Russian state. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia_Beyond Given all that's going on, I found it jarring that it uses the Russian spellings of Kharkiv and Kyiv. I did find the content a little interesting. The other articles on that site seem rather strange, like they exist purely to give westerners more favorable views of the Russian…

Sorry about that, I didn't realize this before I shared it. I had no agenda in sharing it, I did see that it had some Ukrainian contributions listed. I found it because I was trying to find the creator of Filler, when I stumbled upon this list. And not that anyone asked, but I am a Wisconsinite and I support Ukraine.

There is nothing wrong about Russia or sharing russian media. Demonization of Russia is crazy and hypocritical. We should start demonizing the USA more, for their wars of agression against Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Panama and many more. Russia is unfairly demonized, and it is a vicious demonization that is not given to countries that have done far worse to the world, like as the USA.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by my_city »

asveikau wrote: post #7
Waterluvian wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Written years ago when, let’s admit it, most of us were still writing “Kiev” because we didn’t know better and were, of course, ignorant.

I didn't realize the article was from 2020. Anyway, it is true this website is state owned and the other articles have heavy propaganda vibes.

You don't get heavy propaganda vibes when reading Times, The New York times or The Economist?

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by my_city »

Dig1t wrote: post #13

Compare what happened to the creators of these games with the creators of popular titles in the USA and Japan. Tetris is an especially interesting one; Tetris was a worldwide phenomenon, a huge hit in the US that sold a huge number of copies. The creators of Tetris saw none of the profits from their creation. Their game was seized by the state as soon as it became popular and they never really profited. Compare to si…

The individual is more important than the community, a good example of why capitalism sucks. "Individual rights should triumph everything" is a capitalist, liberal ideological tool that is used to justify the exploitation and suffering of the vast population of the world. Human _society_ is based around communities, and _communism_ is based around what is better for _everyone_, not about what is best for a single person.

Yeah, you won't become "rich and famous" (as you said) and be able to exploit others with your profits. Big fucking deal.

What you are saying is liberal capitalist ideology condensed: some people have "the right" to become "rich". But not everyone can be rich, being rich requires some people being poor. So if you think about what you are saying for a fraction of a second, you will realize that your ideology (the triumph of the individual who "deserves" to become "rich") requires exploitation and suffering of others.

Communism tries to combat that. Yes, you won't get rich, but at least children won't die of malnutrition. Children not dying > me becoming rich. That's a trade-off Im willing to make.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by MomoXenosaga »

komali2 wrote: post #121

> For a Soviet citizen, not yet familiar with how the market economy worked, the game was a sort of guide to capitalism. It's not like people just didn't know how market economies worked, especially when this game was made. There were still individual and family enterprises in the Soviet Union: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterprises_in_the_Soviet_Unio... And by the 90s "blue jeans" integration was to the point tha…

I mean the West spent the entire cold war spreading propaganda. Russians knew what McDonald's was they just didn't have any.

And the Russian state did employ economists.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by podviaznikov »

GauntletWizard wrote: post #182
podviaznikov wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parent comment is mostly true to russian people. They assume if the other people know russian language and understand their culture it means everything else is the same. But lots of nations in that region in addition to understanding russian language and culture have their own. A and that is why it can never be said that we are the same people. At a minimum such statements and observations come as the result of ignor…

I can't fault you for taking it as hostility and ignorance, considering the present circumstances, but it doesn't have to be that way. The United States is a nation of nations, and while the same ignorance of local history is broadly true, there can be brotherhood despite that. I'll admit, though, that the US is showing some fraying of those bonds.

“brotherhood” seems like a fancy word used in propaganda. It’s too high level and too abstract.

You don’t start with “brotherhood”.

A you start with respect. Respecting your neighbor. Respecting people practicing some different religion, or having different sexual orientation, or speaking different language, or practicing different traditions.

“brotherhood” is about recognizing that we are all human despite all the differences in the ways we live.

First do that. And that is fundamental difference between the US and russia.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by asveikau »

my_city wrote: post #184
Bondi_Blue wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry about that, I didn't realize this before I shared it. I had no agenda in sharing it, I did see that it had some Ukrainian contributions listed. I found it because I was trying to find the creator of Filler, when I stumbled upon this list. And not that anyone asked, but I am a Wisconsinite and I support Ukraine.

There is nothing wrong about Russia or sharing russian media. Demonization of Russia is crazy and hypocritical. We should start demonizing the USA more, for their wars of agression against Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Korea, Panama and many more. Russia is unfairly demonized, and it is a vicious demonization that is not given to countries that have done far worse to the world, like as the USA.

There is a difference.

The website is government owned.

Look at the front page. It's not journalism. It's promoting the image of a country.

If they had something at the bottom saying "paid for by Russian tourism board" then it'd be fine. I just wouldn't call it journalism.

Re: Video games made in the USSR (2020)

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Post by xkcd1963 »

augustuspolius wrote: post #65
xkcd1963 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've to step in here, because also native Russians starved during the Holodomor. My grandmother saw half-starved people and corpses as a child in the city

Just to clarify - native Russians in Ukraine or outside of it? If the former then it’s not surprising, the genocide was directed at specific territories.

Rostov-on-Don. It was kind of founded 1749 on decree of the Empress Elizabeth so it couldn't get even more Russian. But we have many different ethnicities there https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TWD2Kkrd_bo (german filmmaker 1918)
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