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What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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I find it fascinating that we may be able to clone extinct species, but I agree with the warnings about the dangers of de-extinction. Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. It's important to consider the potential consequences of bringing back ancient species, both for the animals themselves and for the ecosystem. It's also worth noting that even if we are able to successfully clone a dinosaur, it's…

Let’s build huge new habitats for them in orbit.

Lets engineer them for Mars.

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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I'm generally with the detractors on a lot of this. I don't think that bringing back dinosaurs is the best idea. I do think getting more diversity with grazing animal populations and increasing the numbers for ruminants would be beneficial. A lot of the grasslands have deteriorated as the numbers of grazing populations have declined. Nature is an ecosystem, not a mono crop. On the flip side, just with breeding, we've…

I don't think anyone is considering this as really bringing them back and releasing them into an ecosystem, just Jurassic Park type novelty.

I think containment for such organisms could be more challenging beyond the Jurrasic Park movie plot. For example would we also have to account for side effects such as horizontal gene transfer[0]?

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizontal_gene_transfer

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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The dinosaurs lived in an incomprehensibly different world. From the food and nutrition to the very air they were breathing which we only have vague ideas about. That means the first several generations at the very least would suffer and die from various nutrition, toxicity and environment issues. Even after all that got figured out the dinosaurs would likely have be confined to some small controlled environment righ…

Life.. uh.. finds a way

True, if we bring back dinosaurs, that will be the biggest example of it

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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It dropped by a third, which is less than the difference between New York and La Paz, so I guess they could deal with it? I wonder how well their immune systems would handle modern germs, though...

It seems like they would be invulnerable to modern germs, because how could any germs exist which would thrive off hundred-million-year-old genomes

"germ" is a bad term.

Certainly it's somewhat unlikely (but not impossible!) for them to be susceptible to a virus.

Bacteria/fungal/etc though? They are perfectly susceptible to all those "germs". Strep doesn't really care if it's infecting a human or an animal. It just needs a hospitable environment.

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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post #12

I find it fascinating that we may be able to clone extinct species, but I agree with the warnings about the dangers of de-extinction. Just because we can do something doesn't mean we should. It's important to consider the potential consequences of bringing back ancient species, both for the animals themselves and for the ecosystem. It's also worth noting that even if we are able to successfully clone a dinosaur, it's…

This sounds like gpt.

And it is a new account. What is the point?

Re: What would it take to bring back the dinosaurs?

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It dropped by a third, which is less than the difference between New York and La Paz, so I guess they could deal with it? I wonder how well their immune systems would handle modern germs, though...

It seems like they would be invulnerable to modern germs, because how could any germs exist which would thrive off hundred-million-year-old genomes

We've never done the experiment, but there are innumerable germs that infect across species, so they'd be catching all kinds of stuff.

"FIV cross-species transmission: An evolutionary prospective" is an interesting paper as an example. It seems FIV infects all cats in the cat family. That paper has a long discussion of the old and new world cat problem as relates to FIV. I'm well aware that saber tooth tigers are not dinos but if we brought saber tooth tigers back they would probably be screwed over by FIV either instantly or at least very soon.

An interesting google search phrase is "diseases of farmed crocodiles and ostriches" and apparently there's a reason our supermarkets are full of the livestock we eat; raising meat crocs looks like a HUGE disease headache. Imagine a giant 400 foot long dinosaur suffering from Caiman Pox.

Raising disease free reptiles that we already have experience with seems to be a big headache; I predict it would be pretty tough to raise dinos.

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