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Who invented the thumb drive?

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Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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It should also be noted that one of the reasons thumb drives took off when they did was not just due to USB.. as technically USB has been around for a few years and there were things like CF card readers coming on the market, and other flash storage readers a few years earlier.. so why did it take until later? Because Win 95 and Win 98 did not have plug and play drivers for USB mass storage devices, at all. I think i…

Hmm, I remember still having to install individual drivers for USB thumb drives/sticks on our stock 98SE install. It was only until we "upgraded" to WinME that USB mass storage largely became plug-and-play.

(Though, I think you could grab the winme usb drivers and plop them into a 98 install to get universal-ish usb mass storage, and later drives just ended up bundling a generic driver instead of a device specific one on the driver CD)

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

#23

I can tell I'm getting older by the number of articles I read that take time to describe 'history' of things that seem obvious since I lived through them, like the explanation of how 3.5" high density 'Floppy disks' held up to 1.44MB. Like... "I know... oh god some people don't know that."

I actually went through this yesterday! I opened a new (still in plastic!) box of HD “floppies” to make a bootable disk for my 486. I sent a picture of it to a friend and he replied “how big are these? 512k?”. I too thought it was common knowledge, the number 1.44 burned into my brain forever, but I do give my friend credit for being at least in the right ballpark, and also to come up with another number that has geek value.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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I can tell I'm getting older by the number of articles I read that take time to describe 'history' of things that seem obvious since I lived through them, like the explanation of how 3.5" high density 'Floppy disks' held up to 1.44MB. Like... "I know... oh god some people don't know that."

I mean to add, the article says that thumb drives are still hot and the market will grow by billions a year more in a few years, but... I haven't used a thumb drive in years. The only time I actually went to look for one was to plug it into a shitty digital picture frame, and that one would also accept SD cards.

Yeah, online file sharing sites of various types (dropbox, box, google drive) have basically replaced the USB stick in most cases. It's simpler to upload and send someone a link than find the stick.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

#25

I can tell I'm getting older by the number of articles I read that take time to describe 'history' of things that seem obvious since I lived through them, like the explanation of how 3.5" high density 'Floppy disks' held up to 1.44MB. Like... "I know... oh god some people don't know that."

I mean to add, the article says that thumb drives are still hot and the market will grow by billions a year more in a few years, but... I haven't used a thumb drive in years. The only time I actually went to look for one was to plug it into a shitty digital picture frame, and that one would also accept SD cards.

Funny, for me it helps replacing another device that I canned twenty years ago: the printer. Every time I need to print something to feed some troglodite's requirement, I put a pdf in a pincho and go down the street to the call shop.

20 cents is absurdly expensive, but much less than maintaining a printer for one paper sheet a month at most.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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post #4

The biggest deal for these taking off was that they just worked on Windows without any special drivers or messing around. It made them appear magic. People lost their minds over how much easier and better they were than all the other stuff - burning CD's, floppy drives, zip disks, LS120 etc. You couldn't email large files and WeTransfer didn't exist. We couldn't get them in fast enough for the users where I worked at…

Obligatory xkcd: https://xkcd.com/949/

To upgrade an old saying:

Never underestimate the power of a Tesla Electric Truck carrying 4 tons of 32TB USB sticks barreling down the highway from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

Still beats the fastest bandwidth of the latest satellite laser LAN.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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post #4

The biggest deal for these taking off was that they just worked on Windows without any special drivers or messing around. It made them appear magic. People lost their minds over how much easier and better they were than all the other stuff - burning CD's, floppy drives, zip disks, LS120 etc. You couldn't email large files and WeTransfer didn't exist. We couldn't get them in fast enough for the users where I worked at…

To be fair, floppies were pretty easy, just had no capacity.

Not to mention little reliability, especially in the latter years. Things got progressively worse going from 5¼" ~170K single-sided CBM-1541 to 5¼" 360K double-sided to 5¼" 1.2M to 3½" 720 to 3½" 1.44M. I never really used 8" floppies due to the lack of hardware so I can't say whether those were better or worse than their 5¼" successors but the hardware and (especially) media took a downturn in the latter years of the 3½" period.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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post #23

I can tell I'm getting older by the number of articles I read that take time to describe 'history' of things that seem obvious since I lived through them, like the explanation of how 3.5" high density 'Floppy disks' held up to 1.44MB. Like... "I know... oh god some people don't know that."

I actually went through this yesterday! I opened a new (still in plastic!) box of HD “floppies” to make a bootable disk for my 486. I sent a picture of it to a friend and he replied “how big are these? 512k?”. I too thought it was common knowledge, the number 1.44 burned into my brain forever, but I do give my friend credit for being at least in the right ballpark, and also to come up with another number that has gee…

Also a good guess because if I remember correctly the floppy floppy disks which were flatter with a larger surface area and actually floppy were about 512k or so.

I only ever saw one machine with one of those in though and of course it was at school, running useless software for us

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

#29

> global sales of thumb drives from all manufacturers surpassed $7 billion, a number that is expected to rise to more than $10 billion by 2028. More than 20 years later, they are indeed dirty cheap. However, I often find them to be unreliable with slow/unsteady real speeds. Meanwhile, small NVMe-based devices in either this thumb-format or SD-format (5 years in the making [1]) are still not very popular, so the price…

Some are much better than others. Where I work we have some embedded systems in lab that can only program from USB. We are constantly reprogramming them, so we go through a lot of USB drives. The cheap ones last maybe a week in the lab, we have found one that will last for months - they cost 5 times as much, but last at least 20 times longer.

Re: Who invented the thumb drive?

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I actually went through this yesterday! I opened a new (still in plastic!) box of HD “floppies” to make a bootable disk for my 486. I sent a picture of it to a friend and he replied “how big are these? 512k?”. I too thought it was common knowledge, the number 1.44 burned into my brain forever, but I do give my friend credit for being at least in the right ballpark, and also to come up with another number that has gee…

Also a good guess because if I remember correctly the floppy floppy disks which were flatter with a larger surface area and actually floppy were about 512k or so. I only ever saw one machine with one of those in though and of course it was at school, running useless software for us

For PC I remember the 5.25" were 1.2MB. Not actually bad capacity comparatively. Or 612KB for single sided.

Though Wikipedia lists quite wide range of sizes none at 512KB.

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