Sure, but it's becoming harder to single out machine-generated content.
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Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
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Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#452Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure it might produce convincing examples of human speech, but it fundamentally lacks an internal point of view that it can express, which places limits on how well it can argue something. It is of course possible that it might (eventually) be convincing enough that no human can tell, which would be problematic because it would suggest human speech is indistinguishable from a knee jerk response that doesn't require t…
You are correct in stating that current chat bots, such as GPT, do not have the ability to form opinions or interpret new information beyond a limited short term memory. This is a limitation of current technology, and as a result, chat bots are limited in their ability to engage in complex arguments or discussions. However, it is important to note that the development of AI technology is ongoing, and it is possible t…
I am pretty sure this response was generated by a bot/GPT. As good as they are, you can tell what's GPT stuff and what isn't.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#453Yes, because it destroys personal opinions and paves the way for dark marketing patterns and content generation networks with dangerous motives.
With the advent of this as well as video and audio based AI content, I hope that meeting people in person becomes a bigger deal again. Who knows, could HN have a physical local meetup spinoff?
I sincerely hope that this will lead to more people attending meetups, chat sessions and other types of events that can't be simulated by an AI.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
I agree with the under current what chatGPT does well is making a good first draft of a text which is intended to be mostly neutral. It is to communication what calculators are to mathematics.
It's really good at conveying information and summarizing the most prominent points of view on a topic. If your goal is just to get a quick, fact-based overview without any color or fluff, I think it already tops what the vast majority of humans can do. I'm finding myself reaching for it instead of Google or Wikipedia for a lot of random questions, which is pretty damn impressive. It's not good at everything, but I'm…
I used it as a consultant on a development project to help me organize some of the milestones and design goals in some documentation.
It wasn't that I didn't know the stuff, I do, but more helpful with quickly organizing and presenting information in a clean and well-written way. I did have to go through and re-write parts of it specific to our domain.. but it saved me many hours of work doing tedious organization of data.
I also tested it with helping create some SOP's for a new position in our very small company, even breaking down the expected tasks into daily schedules.
It's not that it's perfect, but it generates a bit of a boiler-plate starting point for me which then I can work with from there.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#455Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are correct in stating that current chat bots, such as GPT, do not have the ability to form opinions or interpret new information beyond a limited short term memory. This is a limitation of current technology, and as a result, chat bots are limited in their ability to engage in complex arguments or discussions. However, it is important to note that the development of AI technology is ongoing, and it is possible t…
I am pretty sure this response was generated by a bot/GPT. As good as they are, you can tell what's GPT stuff and what isn't.
'Pretty sure' or 'sure'? The fact that you qualify your response is interesting.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#456The fact that soon the internet will be so flooded with bots that you'll be floating eternally alone in a sea of imposters unless we create some draconian real person ID system is a tragedy so great it's crazy it has not dawned on people yet. I started out loving the net because of the feelings of connection and partly because of the honesty and discussions stemming from at least pseudo anonymity, both silly stuff an…
>Christ this is going to be so incredibly boring, paranoid and lonely for everyone in a few years time! I think the opposite will be true. I hope we will spend more people talking to each other in real life, which actually makes me happy that dead internet is happening. I dont know if you buy this theory of social media causing loneliness. I intuitively feel that way and the more I talk with friends on chat, or comme…
> I hope we will spend more people talking to each other in real life, which actually makes me happy that dead internet is happening.
This is certainly true for the majority of people but will be very bad for people who don't fit in with their surroundings. It will hurt communities like LGBTQ+ quite a lot to not be able to talk to other like-minded/open real people.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't this be treated like parking fines by the very rich—just a tiny price to keep broadcasting whatever drivel they feel like?
No; it would be treated like parking fines by the very rich United Parcel Service corporation -- i.e., an extremely effective deterrent. The penalty scales with the number of bot accounts, but even Bill Gates can only drive one automobile at a time.
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at about deterrent? I know here in NYC that UPS just parks as they please and has some kind of deal with the city to pay the tickets with a bulk discount
Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#458Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's good because I always wonder about the dynamic of the establishment "old guard" voting down everything they don't agree with.
Whoever the "old guard" is, they don't have special downvoting powers, do they? In the end, it's a numbers game. As far as I can tell, every user gets exactly one vote, no matter how influential. If "they" really hate you, or if enough normal users flag you, HN has other ways of letting you know, like shadow banning/auto-deading or flagging your account so your comments immediately fall to the bottom of the page no m…
Can you even downvote on new accounts?
Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why is that? It's not about love or should. Rather, we __must__ continually do better to maintain superiority. Could you imagine what would unfold if humans give that up to a logical system? At best, we offload most things to the bot, become dependent, reduce unused cognitive (and physical?) abilities. At worst, a more capable thing determines (a group of) humans are not logical. Then it would move to solve this prob…
The problem is that (1) human hardware is fixed and (2) computer hardware is variable and getting better all the time and (3) computer software is variable and getting better all the time. The question then is if and when they cross over and the recent developments in this domain have me seriously worried that such cross over is inevitable. Human/AI hybrid may well be slowed down by the human bit...
We could work on (1) right? Or as our biological component ceases to be useful to our hybrid self, we can discard it, like a baby tooth.
We thought chess or go defined humanity, turns out it is driving.
Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?
#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are correct in stating that current chat bots, such as GPT, do not have the ability to form opinions or interpret new information beyond a limited short term memory. This is a limitation of current technology, and as a result, chat bots are limited in their ability to engage in complex arguments or discussions. However, it is important to note that the development of AI technology is ongoing, and it is possible t…
I am pretty sure this response was generated by a bot/GPT. As good as they are, you can tell what's GPT stuff and what isn't.
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