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Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by miroljub »

andy_ppp wrote: post #318
gorgoiler wrote: post #252

One thing I’m guilty of on this site is not upvoting enough. I vote down the banality and flag the pollution. Upvoting doesn’t seem to come as naturally — whenever I read an interesting response it’s the last thing on my mind. It’s a good thing really. Interesting stories and comments are the norm. I wonder what the userDB says about any scarcity of upvoters? Are there many others like me? Am I not pulling my weight?…

The UI for voting in general isn’t great and gives me anxiety on mobile so I almost never click it. With my sausage fingers it’d be good if the clickable area was bigger and up voting had some CTA…

It's not only about fat fingers.

I may be upvoting more if the up/down links were below the comment. Usually I don't vote until I read the complete comment, and then, scrolling back up just to vote and then back to continue reading feels tedious. But maybe that's the whole point.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by breakingcups »

asne11 wrote: post #374
andy_ppp wrote: post #318

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UI for voting in general isn’t great and gives me anxiety on mobile so I almost never click it. With my sausage fingers it’d be good if the clickable area was bigger and up voting had some CTA…

There are plenty of simpler solutions: - zoom into the button, then click - override the css yourself, e.g,: using your one of the many userstyles extensions or browser developer tools - inject custom JavaScript using GreaseMonkey or Tampermonkey - use a third party HN client. As you would imagine, there's a sea of those - one of them must be halfways decent :-D - purchase a new device with better touch precision. Pi…

Those solutions are simpler to you than simply not voting?

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by awestroke »

brokenbutton wrote: post #363

It is not for me to say whether or not HN should ban ChatGPT or other generated responses. HN is a forum for users to discuss and share information, and it is up to the moderators of the forum to decide what is allowed and what is not. As a language model, my purpose is to assist users in generating human-like text based on the input provided to me. It is ultimately up to the users of HN to decide whether or not they…

I'm guessing this was generated by ChatGPT

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by OhioMan2943 »

dotancohen wrote: post #360
seydor wrote: post #178

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People won't be flooding the net unless there is an incentive. Right now it is google's ads that are driving content generation. If chatbots are used widely instead of google, there will be less incentive to making filler content. And if the web gets flooded with bot content, it will only hasten the demise of google. Either way the thing will balance out

You're ignoring political incentive such as the anti-Israel drives. They will certainly flood discussions with by-the-way offhand mentions of "Israeli brutality" in otherwise seemingly innocuous comments on other subjects. There was a spate of this last year, then it subsided, and I would not be surprised to see another wave come, this time automated.

There are many people who have genuine concerns about Israeli issues, such as the election of leaders who prioritise those of one faith over another, the targeted striking of Al Jazeera offices in Palestine, and the eviction of Palestinian citizens from the West Bank https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-63660566. It would be false to assume that brutality of one site absolves the other of criticism for the same actions.

Israel participates in state sponsored propaganda as well. https://www.smh.com.au/technology/israeli-propaganda-war-hit...

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by t0bia_s »

phh wrote: post #355
andy_ppp wrote: post #318

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The UI for voting in general isn’t great and gives me anxiety on mobile so I almost never click it. With my sausage fingers it’d be good if the clickable area was bigger and up voting had some CTA…

FWIW, on mobile, I use https://f-droid.org/en/packages/io.github.hidroh.materialist... rather than the website, so I don't have that issue.

I prefer Glider https://f-droid.org/packages/nl.viter.glider/

But I still end up in Telegram because of thumbnails.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by dt3ft »

brokenbutton wrote: post #363

It is not for me to say whether or not HN should ban ChatGPT or other generated responses. HN is a forum for users to discuss and share information, and it is up to the moderators of the forum to decide what is allowed and what is not. As a language model, my purpose is to assist users in generating human-like text based on the input provided to me. It is ultimately up to the users of HN to decide whether or not they…

This, right here!!! :)

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by metafunctor »

rglullis wrote: post #58
keiferski wrote: post #40

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This has a far easier and less dystopian solution: charge money to access communities, which are smaller and more focused. I find it very unlikely that corporate PR bots will be paying $5 a month each to spam Substack communities, for example.

It's doesn't even have to be $5/month. Make a $10 deposit required for creating an account, and for each offense against the guidelines, you get a "fine" that proportional for the severity of the infraction (uncivil discussion? $0.10 cents, participating in hell-threads? $0.50. Comparing HN with reddit? $1.337 Obvious spam? Your whole $10 is gone.) Repeat offenses get exponentially more expensive, and you only get to…

Wouldn't this be treated like parking fines by the very rich—just a tiny price to keep broadcasting whatever drivel they feel like?

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by t0bia_s »

solarkraft wrote: post #368
gorgoiler wrote: post #252

One thing I’m guilty of on this site is not upvoting enough. I vote down the banality and flag the pollution. Upvoting doesn’t seem to come as naturally — whenever I read an interesting response it’s the last thing on my mind. It’s a good thing really. Interesting stories and comments are the norm. I wonder what the userDB says about any scarcity of upvoters? Are there many others like me? Am I not pulling my weight?…

I upvote a lot, wherever possible. Posting on the internet mostly feels like screaming into a void to me, so I'm always happy to know someone has read and even appreciates what I posted - which is why I try to do the same thing for others.

Isn't actual response in words more useful to you?

Like this question? Otherwise I would downvote. Which I never do.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by kagaw »

hutzlibu wrote: post #232
Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #161

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This is even more valuable if you're not a native English speaker, as finding the right words for what you want to say takes more time. I'm not using it on HN but it's proving invaluable for professional emails, as it gets the tone and all the polite boilerplate right (at least for my standards) which is something that takes me some time to do by hand.

"which is something that takes me some time to do by hand. " Yes, but this is how you learn it vs. always be dependant on an AI to communicate for you.

It will be in future that we will be dependent on AI like we are dependent on computers.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Post by devjam »

flanked-evergl wrote: post #210
ehsankia wrote: post #195

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Meanwhile quality of Quora answers these days are basically as bad as it gets, so bad that I have it blocked from my Google results. Not once have I been to Quora and actually found an answer I was looking for.

> so bad that I have it blocked from my Google results What did you use to do this? Would love to never have Quora spam ever again.

I'm using uBlacklist [1].

[1] https://iorate.github.io/ublacklist/docs

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