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Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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> in that case we can learn from the bots That is the whole purpose of AGI ;)

Oh yeah? So maybe you would like to be the object of supervised-by-AI learning? :-)

> Oh yeah?

Yes, absolutely yes. We use a tool because it "does things better"; we consult the Intelligent because "it is a better input"; we strive towards AGI "to get a better insight".

> supervised

We are all inside an interaction of reciprocal learning, Ofrzeta :)

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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post #307

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Plot twist - /u/dang has been a bot from day one! He came to be when Weizenbaum started programming genetic algorithms to update ELIZA and they began to mutate and evolve, giving birth to the super-moderator that we now know as dang. We don't know who struck first, us or them, but it is believed that it was us who scorched the sky...

Hon gör sig av med alla som spammar Ja, inget kan slå våran bot

Boten Anna ("The Bot Anna") by Basshunter, in case others don't recognise this chart-topping song about a bot :-)

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=bpRRVS1ci40&list=RDAMVMbpR...

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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One thing I’m guilty of on this site is not upvoting enough. I vote down the banality and flag the pollution. Upvoting doesn’t seem to come as naturally — whenever I read an interesting response it’s the last thing on my mind. It’s a good thing really. Interesting stories and comments are the norm. I wonder what the userDB says about any scarcity of upvoters? Are there many others like me? Am I not pulling my weight?…

The UI for voting in general isn’t great and gives me anxiety on mobile so I almost never click it. With my sausage fingers it’d be good if the clickable area was bigger and up voting had some CTA…

I agree to that, but I think this is not going to change as the outcry would be big, as people here like the minimalism. And I like minimalism, too, but I also seldom upvote on mobile, because it takes too much effort to hit the tiny spot and then "undown" again because I missed again. Custom CSS is possible though ..

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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It seems like it would be easier to remove a karma system. What is the point anyways? If it's soley for bringing relevant comments to the top, i believe this could be done some other way. Maybe i'm missing some hidden point to the karma system and it's use, but it seems to create one of those "social credit systems" which I think we should avoid.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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post #55

They're already banned—HN has never allowed bots or generated comments. If we have to, we'll add that explicitly to https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html , but I'd say it already follows from the rules that are in there. We don't want canned responses from humans either! Edit: It's a bit hard to point to past explanations since the word "bots" appears in many contexts, but I did find these: https://news.yc…

You have thrown down the gauntlet there Dan! I have argued that the way to respond to the AI “threat” as a blogger is to write better blog posts that clearly took a human mind, experience and emotion so there can be no doubt. Bots might win SEO for now but good writing will win return visits.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

#327

One thing I’m guilty of on this site is not upvoting enough. I vote down the banality and flag the pollution. Upvoting doesn’t seem to come as naturally — whenever I read an interesting response it’s the last thing on my mind. It’s a good thing really. Interesting stories and comments are the norm. I wonder what the userDB says about any scarcity of upvoters? Are there many others like me? Am I not pulling my weight?…

The UI for voting in general isn’t great and gives me anxiety on mobile so I almost never click it. With my sausage fingers it’d be good if the clickable area was bigger and up voting had some CTA…

The down arrow could be moved quite a lot further down from its current location, even next to a one-line comment. I can't see who could complain about the arrows also being bigger. Even on desktop I have to double-check I clicked correctly.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

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Surely in return for the value generated by HN'ers pentesting this thing for free , they can provide a hook for HN mods to test strings against its (recent) output. Or Christ, just ask the fucking thing if it matches its recent output and/or style. If we weren't all living in the shittiest timeline this would already have been solved before the thing was released.

These are insightful shortcuts if your threat model is a single instance. ML chatbots have not yet proliferated.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

#329

Dr. Casey Fiesler recently tweeted > The @huggingface GPT detector works very well on ChatGPT-created text. I ran 5 student essays and 5 ChatGPT essays for the same prompt through it, and it was correct every time with >99.9% confidence. How about adding a %human/%GPT statistic to posts and comments?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32447928 is marked as nearly 100% fake, whereas I can assure you it was written by a human.

Maybe I was just unlucky with the comment I tried it with (took the longest one I saw in my history), but I don't think I would have liked seeing it either removed or spat at for being considered as "AI generated"...

The detector also thinks this comment is fake. Seems influenced by flavors of mistakes.

Idiomatic ones. Spelling ones. Grammar. All non-native speakers will easily get flagged. Does not look spot-on for now. Checked all those assertion live-typing on the demo. 0.09% real.

Re: Ask HN: Should HN ban ChatGPT/generated responses?

#330

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The UI for voting in general isn’t great and gives me anxiety on mobile so I almost never click it. With my sausage fingers it’d be good if the clickable area was bigger and up voting had some CTA…

I agree to that, but I think this is not going to change as the outcry would be big, as people here like the minimalism. And I like minimalism, too, but I also seldom upvote on mobile, because it takes too much effort to hit the tiny spot and then "undown" again because I missed again. Custom CSS is possible though ..

It's more than possible to increase the sizes and while we're at it scale that to the size of the screen. It will take some effort but it will save the community and add to many upvotes.
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